Mean Green
Mean Green
Hey guys, I have been working with John Deere Joe with regards to matching the mean green paint. I have to say, it's been a bit of a challenge. But I think I have a pretty good sample for you guys.
Joe sent me a NOS mean green part, the round part in the picture below. what has slowed me up a bit, is that I inadvertently threw the piece away. (bang head on work bench time), so I couldn't do a final comparison in good lighting after my sample dried.
I am aware of the published color recommendation. I am going to say some things here contradict some published information. Please take it as my findings with my paint. I am not saying any recommendation is incorrect.
I mixed some Elkhart Green and another green that I found recommended. Now keep in mind, these findings are in MY paint line. You may have different results in different paint lines, especially on old colors. This is part of the problem of using a code. I could go deeper into why, but that we will talk about another day.
Here is what I found.
Elkhart green is the top stick, the bottom stick was another recommendation that I found. Elkhart green is too yellow and not even the correct size of metalflake. I didn't use it even to base a color off of to tint with. The other green at least had the same flake. But the color really just wouldn't come around so I gave up on it. Trust me I tried. LOL The problem is that the base colors are just not correct. The color that I finally started with used totally different toners.
Here is the color that I sent to Joe Rainville to evaluate. It is now up against a Cyclone hood with the decal's removed.
Now I will say that Joe, commented he thought the color was a bit dark. I am seeing the exact opposite here. Keep in mind, this color is spray sensitive especially as a single stage. Joe sprayed single stage, my sample is basecoat. His sample that he is matching to could be slightly different also.
After this picture, I have made a couple slight adjustments to this color, and I am going to start to market it.
Please understand that this does not mean that the formula is set in stone yet. I would call it a "beta" version. I am always open to constructive criticism of my colors.
If we find that we need to tweak the color some more as we compare to more original samples out there, I will.
Please understand though. This is not a code. This is a custom formula. I offer it in basecoat, 1k Acrylic and urethane. I also fill aerosols.
Now I am going to tell you guys one thing with this color. You will NEED to use a black undercoat. Whether it be a black sealer, primer, or groundcoat. I have heard this from other people for other brands of paint also on this color as well.
I wish to take some time here to thank Joe. He has been very helpful on this project.
If you guys have any questions, please post them, or contact me with them.
My website is vintagesledpaint.com
thanks for your time and this opportunity!
Thinking snow here!
Joe sent me a NOS mean green part, the round part in the picture below. what has slowed me up a bit, is that I inadvertently threw the piece away. (bang head on work bench time), so I couldn't do a final comparison in good lighting after my sample dried.
I am aware of the published color recommendation. I am going to say some things here contradict some published information. Please take it as my findings with my paint. I am not saying any recommendation is incorrect.
I mixed some Elkhart Green and another green that I found recommended. Now keep in mind, these findings are in MY paint line. You may have different results in different paint lines, especially on old colors. This is part of the problem of using a code. I could go deeper into why, but that we will talk about another day.
Here is what I found.
Elkhart green is the top stick, the bottom stick was another recommendation that I found. Elkhart green is too yellow and not even the correct size of metalflake. I didn't use it even to base a color off of to tint with. The other green at least had the same flake. But the color really just wouldn't come around so I gave up on it. Trust me I tried. LOL The problem is that the base colors are just not correct. The color that I finally started with used totally different toners.
Here is the color that I sent to Joe Rainville to evaluate. It is now up against a Cyclone hood with the decal's removed.
Now I will say that Joe, commented he thought the color was a bit dark. I am seeing the exact opposite here. Keep in mind, this color is spray sensitive especially as a single stage. Joe sprayed single stage, my sample is basecoat. His sample that he is matching to could be slightly different also.
After this picture, I have made a couple slight adjustments to this color, and I am going to start to market it.
Please understand that this does not mean that the formula is set in stone yet. I would call it a "beta" version. I am always open to constructive criticism of my colors.
If we find that we need to tweak the color some more as we compare to more original samples out there, I will.
Please understand though. This is not a code. This is a custom formula. I offer it in basecoat, 1k Acrylic and urethane. I also fill aerosols.
Now I am going to tell you guys one thing with this color. You will NEED to use a black undercoat. Whether it be a black sealer, primer, or groundcoat. I have heard this from other people for other brands of paint also on this color as well.
I wish to take some time here to thank Joe. He has been very helpful on this project.
If you guys have any questions, please post them, or contact me with them.
My website is vintagesledpaint.com
thanks for your time and this opportunity!
Thinking snow here!
Re: Mean Green
If anyone has a good sample of Emerald green that they can get me, I will tackle that one also!
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Re: Mean Green
I think I have the color standards from John Deere archives on both of these colors. I will check . Tom
Re: Mean Green
I have nos 76 cyclone hood does that help in any way?
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Re: Mean Green
Yes I do have them. Actually I have all 5 colors of deere sleds. Mean green, emerald green, winterfrost 1 and winterfrost 2, and midnight mist metallic black. Pm me with your address and I will mail them with some insurance. I do need them back of course. Maybe send your phone number also and we can visit. Tom
Re: Mean Green
jdjock,
sent you a pm.
That is great news. Thank you.
sent you a pm.
That is great news. Thank you.
Re: Mean Green
Since jdjock has the color standards, we will use those. But thank you!staudt wrote:I have nos 76 cyclone hood does that help in any way?
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Re: Mean Green
nice work ddub, looking foward to purchasing some paint from you. Would be nice to get the emerald green also.
79 spitfire. 78 cyclone 440
76 liqufire 340. 80 liquifire
76 liquifire 440 x 2
76 liqufire 340. 80 liquifire
76 liquifire 440 x 2
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Re: Mean Green
Once this is all figured out, I will be a customer...PM me
Current:
77 John Deere Cyclone 440
98 Yamaha SRX700
1994 Arctic Cat Wildcat 700EFI
Past:
1968 Rupp GT300
1970 Evenrude Bobcat 440
1972 Ski-Doo 340 Silver Bullet
1976 Arctic Cat Cheetah 440
1976 Ski-Doo TN'T Everest 440
1978 Yamaha Exciter 440
1979? Yamaha Enticer 300
1979? Yamaha Enticer 250
1987 Polaris Sprint 340
77 John Deere Cyclone 440
98 Yamaha SRX700
1994 Arctic Cat Wildcat 700EFI
Past:
1968 Rupp GT300
1970 Evenrude Bobcat 440
1972 Ski-Doo 340 Silver Bullet
1976 Arctic Cat Cheetah 440
1976 Ski-Doo TN'T Everest 440
1978 Yamaha Exciter 440
1979? Yamaha Enticer 300
1979? Yamaha Enticer 250
1987 Polaris Sprint 340
Re: Mean Green
I talked to jdjock tonight.
The color standards have been shipped. Thank you.
The color standards have been shipped. Thank you.
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Re: Mean Green
sweet
Current:
77 John Deere Cyclone 440
98 Yamaha SRX700
1994 Arctic Cat Wildcat 700EFI
Past:
1968 Rupp GT300
1970 Evenrude Bobcat 440
1972 Ski-Doo 340 Silver Bullet
1976 Arctic Cat Cheetah 440
1976 Ski-Doo TN'T Everest 440
1978 Yamaha Exciter 440
1979? Yamaha Enticer 300
1979? Yamaha Enticer 250
1987 Polaris Sprint 340
77 John Deere Cyclone 440
98 Yamaha SRX700
1994 Arctic Cat Wildcat 700EFI
Past:
1968 Rupp GT300
1970 Evenrude Bobcat 440
1972 Ski-Doo 340 Silver Bullet
1976 Arctic Cat Cheetah 440
1976 Ski-Doo TN'T Everest 440
1978 Yamaha Exciter 440
1979? Yamaha Enticer 300
1979? Yamaha Enticer 250
1987 Polaris Sprint 340
Re: Mean Green
The color standards have arrived!
Mean green, emerald green, winterfrost 1 and winterfrost 2, and midnight mist metallic black.
Merry Christmas to US! LOL
Thank you jdjock.
Mean green, emerald green, winterfrost 1 and winterfrost 2, and midnight mist metallic black.
Merry Christmas to US! LOL
Thank you jdjock.
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Re: Mean Green
ddub, A good starting point to look at for 78 Green (cylone) is Nason GS292. No flake in this from the jobber;has to be added to suit individual spray style/equipment/shop enviroment.
Here's the disclaime; as with all codes, use at your own risk..........30 y.o. paints fade/outgass so you may not be happy with the results.......
Here's the disclaime; as with all codes, use at your own risk..........30 y.o. paints fade/outgass so you may not be happy with the results.......
Re: Mean Green
G and G,Green and Gold wrote:ddub, A good starting point to look at for 78 Green (cylone) is Nason GS292. No flake in this from the jobber;has to be added to suit individual spray style/equipment/shop enviroment.
Here's the disclaime; as with all codes, use at your own risk..........30 y.o. paints fade/outgass so you may not be happy with the results.......
While I have access to Nason, it is not the brand of paint that I personally mix. The number you supplied is a DuPont number that doesn't "cross" into any competitive lines as it is a color map number. However, I do have the dupont colormap that has this chip so I can compare it to my color map so it may prove helpful.
Guys for the record Green and Gold has been very helpful with this endeavor in both the Ski-Doo and John Deere brands. Thank you Green and Gold.
Re: Mean Green
What brand of paint is the Mean Green. What is the price going to be for a Qt.
Kurt.
295/s
'72 400, Modern suspension, mod 440/5, hoping to be 65hp
'91 Eagle Talon 10.9@140, street tire E85 3400lbs.
295/s
'72 400, Modern suspension, mod 440/5, hoping to be 65hp
'91 Eagle Talon 10.9@140, street tire E85 3400lbs.