Work on The Twins begins
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Work on The Twins begins
Started disassembly today, first start will be motor refreshining.
1975 340/s Speed Run Sled
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
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1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
Both motors are now out.
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1975 340/s Speed Run Sled
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
***Duelling Deere Garage***
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
Anyone know specs on the after market LF electronics? I'm getting some high readings but it did have spark.
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1975 340/s Speed Run Sled
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
***Duelling Deere Garage***
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
What are you testing?
'76 440 cyclone
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
Testing the ignition coil
1975 340/s Speed Run Sled
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
***Duelling Deere Garage***
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
The ignition coil has the same ohm specs as the original. The only thing that looks aftermarket is the cdi box.
'76 440 cyclone
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
Ok thanks pat! So is primary and secondary windings the same as high and low speeds? Also according to the primary test on the ignition coil you touch blue and brown wires to get .37 ohms but I always get .7 ohms doing that.....but if I touch blue/blue I get .4 ohms...I'm really guessing that it's the ignition coil failure after heating up cause the LF is very fast for the first 5-10 min of riding and then she starts loading. And the cdi either works or it doesn't correct?
1975 340/s Speed Run Sled
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
***Duelling Deere Garage***
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
***Duelling Deere Garage***
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
Are you sure you have the ohm meter set correctly?
'76 440 cyclone
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
Testing blue to blue is not part of the testing.
'76 440 cyclone
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
The Kawi cdi can and has been known to do different things when it begins to fail. I had one that cut out when hot randomly.
'76 440 cyclone
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
Re: Work on The Twins begins
Does you meter actually show zero when you touch the meter leads together?
Cheaper meters are known to be a little off at the low end.
Cheaper meters are known to be a little off at the low end.
Todd Schrupp
Milbank SD
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
its probably under $20 meter from menards, and I believe I do have it set right when testing, It tests exciter and pulser perfectly and secondary winding correctly just not primary winding for some reason....I have a aftermarket CDI and some original used ones that I can try as well as aftermarket ignition coils and original used coils, I really am betting on heated up electronics but I need snow to take her out and test performance!
1975 340/s Speed Run Sled
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
***Duelling Deere Garage***
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
1 down 1 to go
1975 340/s Speed Run Sled
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
***Duelling Deere Garage***
1975 340/s I500 #161
1980 Liquifire SN# 4995 From WA Speed Run Sled
1980 Liquifire SN# 4996 From MN
1983 Sportfire
1984 Liquifire Deep Snow Tunnel 4/6 motor
1984 Sprintfire (2)
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Re: Work on The Twins begins
Motor looks great. What did you use to clean it? We just got a Cuda parts washer at work, and I am going to try that on my next crank case and heads. The jugs are always clean when they return from being plated. What all did you do to it? I am glad to see that I am not the only one to purchase so many sleds in one year. Your work area looks as cramped as mine! Later Lincoln
2015 vintage challenge finisher on 81 liquifire
2016 vintage challenge finisher on a wounded 83 Liquifire
2016 vintage challenge finisher on a wounded 83 Liquifire
Re: Work on The Twins begins
She cleaned up real nice Guy.
Good to see the grease and oiler close by.
Prelubing everything on reassembly is key.
Good to see the grease and oiler close by.
Prelubing everything on reassembly is key.
Todd Schrupp
Milbank SD
Milbank SD