snowmobile trivia

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the rotax type 464 engine first appeared in the 1980 everest electra l/c it displaced 462.8 cc, had a single pipe and single vm 34 mikuni carb with primer for easy starting.

the rotax type 465 engine first appeared in the 1984 formula mx (pro stock) it displaced 462.8cc had a single pipe and dual mikuni vm30 carbs with primer for easy starting

the 9700 blizzard first appeared in 1983 to this day is considered the fastest 500cc consumer sled of all time. it had the rotax 534 type engine displaceing 521.2cc, with dual pipes and dual vm 40 carbs with primer for easy starting.

what was the first consumer artic cat model to feature independant front suspention?

what was the first consumer skidoo model to feature independant front suspention?

what was the first consumer polaris model to feature independant front suspention?

what was the first consumer yamaha model to feature independant front suspention?

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[JoeRainville]

RP: The Blizzard 9700 did not come out until 1983 with the 521cc RV engine. In 1981 there was a 9500 with the fasted 440cc motor on the planet. The 9700 was not oil injected in 83, but it was in 84. That 521 motor was then used in the Formula Plus IFS sled of 85.

The IFS sled answers are:

The 79 Trail Cat 3000 was the first CONSUMER IFS sled by Cat, or anyone else for that matter.

First Ski-Doo consumer IFS was the Blizzard 5500 Mx of 1981. It had a 15" track in 81 only, went to the 16.5" track the next year so they stopped getting stuck in parking lots.

First Polaris consumer IFS was the 1980 Indy TXL 340. TXL means TX-Liquid.

First Consumer Yamaha was the SRV for 1980 (I think, could have been 81). The SRX got the struts in 81 for sure, but I am pretty sure the SRV was first.


Here are a few questions from me:

Name 2 Kawasaki motors used in Kawi sleds, but not John Deere's:

Name the 2 differences from the Kawi T-7 based Intruder F/C motor vs the Sportfire motor:

Name Three company's that had IFS racers in the 70's that failed to capitalize on them for the consumer market:

First Liquid Cooled Consumer Sled and year:

What was the largest T-7 Kawi Liquid motor displacement, and what it was used in:

Name of Larry Prestons brother who reciently came over "The (JD) Green side":

Later Liquidator,
-Rainville

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as far as tillotsens built for 440's, I have no idea how to tell the diff other than they can be found on 440's....lol

4 parts common to all JD sleds? Hmmm? taillight lens, fuel filter, side marker reflectors, tie rod ends?

txl's all have the EC34PL 333 cc liquid cooled twins

polaris adjustment holes? 3 on front shaft and 2 on rear?

74 Oly was available with a Type 434 Rotax (436.6cc) as it's largest mill

Arctic's first "consumer" IFS was in the 79 Trail Cat. Gosh, those had weak front end components

[Liquifire 4/6]

Man, these are all excellent. I'll have a ton of material by February.

engines used in kawasakis, but not in JD? Well. Deere never used any Yamaha engines like Kawasaki used in the 77 SST 340 & 440. Nor did Deere use an Intruder, Interceptor or Invader LTD mill as far as I know

Intruder engine had dual carbs and different cylinders than a Sportfire

3 IFs sleds from the 70's that didn't materialize into consumer products?

Gilles Villenueve's Skiroule racers from 75/76, Gille's twin track Alouette from 74, and Chaparral's 1972 IFS race sled that had the ground effects wing on the hood

First L/C sledmaker? Brutanza Engineering offered the LC-44 back in 72, I think. The design was later used by Scorpion Brut and in the Massey Marauder & Cyclone

Rainville, you have me stumped with your last two questions

[JoeRainville]

Pete,

Good guess on the 4 common parts, but the tail light lens was different for the 72 Deeres, and I think the tie rod ends are not the same from the 100/JDX's to the fire series. But, I have to check.

I actually need to do some research into this, but I think it "could be" the ski spring pin that holds the ski's to the leaf springs, the aluminum pins that hold the throttle and brake levers to the bars, drive axle bearing flanges, and maybe the ski spindle bolts?!

I will give RP credit on this one, it's a head scratcher. Almost makes up for the Blizzard 9700 remarks...almost.

-Rainville

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Hey Pete,

Here's two for you

1) What was the first consumer sled to offer oil injection?

2) what was the first consumers sled to offer dual expansion chamber exhaust?

Hope someone has the answers to these, cause I don't. Always wondered about these two questions and figured they would be good for your little quiz. I am assuming that the oil injection one is a Yamaha, because I think that all their sleds came with oil injection right from the get go. Yamaha also might be the answer to the tuned exhaust question as well. I bought a 1970 Yamaha ss396 this summer and it came with dual tuned exhaust from the factory.

[HoosierDeereMan]

The backrest pad and the back rest cover plate that bolts on the back of it would be my guess on some parts used on every model. The same pad and rear panel were put on from '72 up to '84. The mounting bars were different because while most fit the 15" tunnels they made a wider version to fit the 18" wide 600. Just a guess!


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the yamaha srv was a mid year introduction in 1980 &1/2

the biggest kawi im assuming was the 550 in the interceptor.

ever try drilling those ski pins? forget it, put them on the shelf for later and make some new ones. the kimpex replacement skis are narower on the back. requireing shorter pins.

ever try lifting a blizzard mx into a pickup truck? forget it, its easier to drill ski pins.

what was the widest track ever used on a sled. im guessing the 20 inch on the skidoo, yamaha work sleds. but i thought i may have seen a 24" somewhere?

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what model snowmobile enjoyed the longest production run.? hint-its not an elan.

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what was the widest track ever used on a sled. im guessing the 20 inch on the skidoo, yamaha work sleds.  but i thought i may have seen a 24" somewhere?

Ski-doo used a 24in track on the Skandic models. I think it is still used on current models?

As far as the the 9700 Blizzy is concerned they didn't hit the public until 1983. Gerard Karpik was experimenting with the 534 rotary before it hit the showroom but only on hand built IFS sleds. Cudos if you have one, but I would bet that you have a 9500 or 5500 chassis with a 9700 mill and stickers on it.

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Heres one: Which snowmobile had an engine that ran backwards? (Counterclockwise viewing the fan) and No the engine was not a reversible engine.

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Heres one: Which snowmobile had an engine that ran backwards? (Counterclockwise viewing the fan) and No the engine was not a reversible engine.
the mercury snowmobiles could be started backwards thus enabling them to reverse. no not that one...what about the rotary engined johnson?

what sled had a hydraulic drive?