I will be shortly acquiring a 4/6 Invader motor. It's been sitting in a barn for 15 years. It's not stuck, but it needs rebuilding. What parts interchange from the Liquifire/Invader engines? Winderosa makes a gasket set, but it's a Winderosa gasket set..... Can I use regular Invader gaskets from Cometic? Will Invader/Liquifire pistons work or is the porting different? It has spark, and a borescope shows good chrome in the cylinders, so the hard to find parts won't be needed.
~Jack
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guitardude081
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Owner, Durand Motorsports
1980 Trailfire 340 (Grandpa bought new)
1983 Trailfire LX
1982 Spitfire (Grandpa bought new)
(3)1974 295/S
1975 340/S
(2) 1978 Liquifire
2003 Ski Doo Renegade 600HO
1993 Polaris XLT Special with AAEN pipes
2020 Polaris Indy 600 XC 129 40th Anniversary Edition
1980 Liquifire (currently in pieces)
1980 Trailfire 340 (Grandpa bought new)
1983 Trailfire LX
1982 Spitfire (Grandpa bought new)
(3)1974 295/S
1975 340/S
(2) 1978 Liquifire
2003 Ski Doo Renegade 600HO
1993 Polaris XLT Special with AAEN pipes
2020 Polaris Indy 600 XC 129 40th Anniversary Edition
1980 Liquifire (currently in pieces)
Twin Plug Kawi motor
You can use invader gasket kit on that motor . The invader pistons will work but they are supposed to use a different piston and rings.
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guitardude081
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What is the difference between the pistons? I read somewhere that they are not interchangable, but some catalogs list the same piston for all of the 68mm bores (LTD, Invader, LF, TF grouped into one), some list for everything but the LTD and some list different ones for F/C and L/C motors separate........Not many catalogs are consistent with eachother. I know what works as far a original JD applications but, I'm not a Kawi snowmobile guy at all.
~Jack
~Jack
Owner, Durand Motorsports
1980 Trailfire 340 (Grandpa bought new)
1983 Trailfire LX
1982 Spitfire (Grandpa bought new)
(3)1974 295/S
1975 340/S
(2) 1978 Liquifire
2003 Ski Doo Renegade 600HO
1993 Polaris XLT Special with AAEN pipes
2020 Polaris Indy 600 XC 129 40th Anniversary Edition
1980 Liquifire (currently in pieces)
1980 Trailfire 340 (Grandpa bought new)
1983 Trailfire LX
1982 Spitfire (Grandpa bought new)
(3)1974 295/S
1975 340/S
(2) 1978 Liquifire
2003 Ski Doo Renegade 600HO
1993 Polaris XLT Special with AAEN pipes
2020 Polaris Indy 600 XC 129 40th Anniversary Edition
1980 Liquifire (currently in pieces)
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Jack, I think the Square block LTD motors use a different piston than the Invaders, & the Invader 4/6 LTD motors do, & the square blockers use different gaskets also (for sure different head gaskets)
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guitardude081
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Kenny, this is the regular Kawi Liquifire style, but it's all black and has two plugs in each head. After talking with you this morning, my only thoughts on the differences in the regular TC440s and the 4/6's was that the port heights in the pistons were different to allow more intake charge. I can't wait to get this thing built. Once I get my other 3 never-ending projects done, it's all systems go for project "go fast Liquifire". I have a feeling Jerome's gonna be sick of JD cranks when I'm done.
~Jack
~Jack
Owner, Durand Motorsports
1980 Trailfire 340 (Grandpa bought new)
1983 Trailfire LX
1982 Spitfire (Grandpa bought new)
(3)1974 295/S
1975 340/S
(2) 1978 Liquifire
2003 Ski Doo Renegade 600HO
1993 Polaris XLT Special with AAEN pipes
2020 Polaris Indy 600 XC 129 40th Anniversary Edition
1980 Liquifire (currently in pieces)
1980 Trailfire 340 (Grandpa bought new)
1983 Trailfire LX
1982 Spitfire (Grandpa bought new)
(3)1974 295/S
1975 340/S
(2) 1978 Liquifire
2003 Ski Doo Renegade 600HO
1993 Polaris XLT Special with AAEN pipes
2020 Polaris Indy 600 XC 129 40th Anniversary Edition
1980 Liquifire (currently in pieces)
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Jack. The main feature to the 4/6 motor is the coolness factor. In stock form there is not that much difference. The cylinders respond well to porting and Aaen pipes. The Invader pistons work but so do stock Invader/Liquifire cylinders. Ignition is the same as the early seventies Cat twin plug sleds. Peter
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The ring pin position is different on the 4/6 versus invader motor and they used the same rings as the 81 &82 LTD motors on the 4/6