Liquifire seat question

ralphy · Post by **ralphy** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:10 am

Hi all. I just got done replacing the seat plywood strips on my 100.00 sled. As keeping the budget low, I did it myself using the holey cover again. I had a fan blowing on the foam for 50+ hours, got it completely dry, then used 3M spray adhesive to glue the wood to the foam, stapled the vinyl down. I used a Permatex vinyl kit to fill the holes in the hump, this worked great, looks good from 10 feet away. My question is, was the vinyl cover glued to the foam on the seat sides? It looked like it was. There was what looked like glue on the foam. I went ahead and sprayed the 3M on the sides of the foam b4 stapling the vinyl down. This has made the seat much firmer as the sides dont just "blow out" towards the running boards. Im nervous this will cause cracking problems when it gets cold though. Im sure the newer sleds have the vinyl glued to the foam on the sides, but was this the way they left Deere? I might replace the seat with one of John's this summer when I have more income,but as for now the old seat will have to do. Thanks...

ralphy · Post by **ralphy** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:35 am

Did I stump somebody?

400brian · Post by **400brian** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:12 pm

On the molded seats, the foam was apparently poured into the cover while it ws sucked into a hot form. This pretty much bonded the foam to the vinyl.

79 Spitfire · Post by **79 Spitfire** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:18 pm

400brian wrote:On the molded seats, the foam was apparently poured into the cover while it ws sucked into a hot form. This pretty much bonded the foam to the vinyl.

Sounds like that was the cheap way to do it. If not a better way but may cause more problems with the cracking of seats.

-Jim

JoeRainville · Post by **JoeRainville** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:10 pm

The cracking of the molded seat covers is probably from the deep 'draw' the vinyl makes as it was sucked down into the vacuum mold. This thins down the part of the seat (the hump) that was drawn down the farthest, making it suseptable to cracking. Exposing the seat to sunlight also brakes down the plasticizers, making them more brittle too.

I think Brian is right, I think the foam was injected or poured into the seat cover, effectively bonding it to the cover.

-Rainville

ralphy · Post by **ralphy** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:09 pm

ok thanks all.

webman · Post by **webman** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:33 pm

How was the wood attached? I have a 80 liquifire seat that is fine, but the wood on the bottom is shot.

Post by **john_upholstery** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:04 am

The wood was moulded into the foam, when the seat was made. Just take a putty knife and remove the old wood. When I put new wood strips in, I use 3M glue 8088 and also I put new T-nuts in the front of the strip. I feel that it holds the strip down to the tunnel better. Your seat cushion has probably shrunk a bit at the sides. Look across the bottom, I bet the strips do not lay down flat.