1980 440 trailfire

xcr800 · Post by **xcr800** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:59 pm

I have a 1980 440 Trailfire that I have a hard time starting. I sometimes have to pull it around 10 times or more any sugestions would be appreciated.

liquifire_freak · Post by **liquifire_freak** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:27 pm

10 pulls in the morning when your just starting it for the first time or 10 pulls after its already been warmed up?

smitfire · Post by **smitfire** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:22 pm

if you got your carb clean and choke adjusted right, carb adjusted, its the crank seals

xcr800 · Post by **xcr800** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:42 am

When I get it started and have been riding it and shut it off and it sits for an hour or two and I try to start it it takes a long time to start. Full or half choke doesn't seem to help. Sometimes we have to hold throttle wide open and pull it until it starts.

b00stinGTP · Post by **b00stinGTP** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:05 am

Is it flooding or isnt it getting gas? How is the spark?

xcr800 · Post by **xcr800** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:40 pm

I would say that its flooding because you can smell the gas

b00stinGTP · Post by **b00stinGTP** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:16 pm

Pull the plugs and see if they are wet or not then you will know.

JDFanPa · Post by **JDFanPa** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:14 am

Kinda a bandaid for the problem but I bet if you add a fuel shut off you wont have this trouble. Sounds like the fuel is leaking past the inlet needle. This could be a prob in the carb or even as simple as a dirty fuel tank it only take very minor particles of debree to keep the needle from seating 100% and stopping the fuel from going into the engine. My 82 trail does this not in an hr or 2 like yours but after a few days. I actually pull the line of the carb and plug it when I park it for the day. You can also try doing this next time your gonna let it sit and see if it starts ok.