The last ime I was here I was stripping a 72 JD 500 to put the motor into a race sled I was making. Musta been a year and a half ago or so.
Well now I've burned that motor down so I come seeking help, info and most likely parts if they are to be found.
The motor in question is a 440 CCW. But like an idiot I got rid of the tag when I cut the shroud off, and didn't write down the model #.
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Is there any help for me and my Panther with a DEERE heart?
Thanks Guys.
Later,
Kenny
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Matt
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Long time! I like what youve done to the place!
The model is KEC440, unforunatly those pistons have become hard to come by.
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Long time! I like what youve done to the place!
I really like your sled appropriately named ?FRANKEN PANTHER?. Although, apparently some find it offensive. 
Dustin Elder
Salem, OH
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Salem, OH
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"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege."
Long time! I like what youve done to the place!
I thought that was the word when I was doing this modification. What about over sized pistons for it? Same problem? How about aftermarket? IE Wiseco.
I didn't plan to make any one mad!
It came out of a free sled and went into a free sled to make one I could race! It WAS winning when it locked up!!! 
Thanks for the help so far!
Later,
Kenny
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I didn't plan to make any one mad!
It came out of a free sled and went into a free sled to make one I could race! It WAS winning when it locked up!!! Thanks for the help so far!
Later,
Kenny
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Long time! I like what youve done to the place!
No. I think that sled is awesome. Why not use the whole Deere?
Dustin Elder
Salem, OH
Midmounts.... Lots and lots of midmounts...
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege."
Salem, OH
Midmounts.... Lots and lots of midmounts...
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege."
Long time! I like what youve done to the place!
The only requirements for the race are, the sled has to be a Panther, 440 or less in motor size and we have to wear helmets!JD600 wrote:No. I think that sled is awesome. Why not use the whole Deere?
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Kenny, I have a NOS pair of 440 CCW pistons but there for the piston ported engines not the reed valve ones $100.00 pr with rings, pins & C- clips + shipping..
Kenny
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"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
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Long time! I like what youve done to the place!
since the motor is out of a '72 500, shouldn't it be a piston ported motor?
Dustin Elder
Salem, OH
Midmounts.... Lots and lots of midmounts...
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege."
Salem, OH
Midmounts.... Lots and lots of midmounts...
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege."
Long time! I like what youve done to the place!
KennyH.. So what happened to the motor.?? What do you need to get it going again.? Rod,crank,pistons,cyls,.? I am sure with the help of this site we can make it live again... 
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No after market pistons available. ICCSF's would be the best bet, but I've been told that Rotax 440 F/A 20 over pistons will work, but I haven't had any one confirm that.
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Wow those are some crazy heads. Is that Custom???
BOB From MASS
OWN: 1 1983 JOHN DEERE LIQUIFIRE 440
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GOTTA LOVE THAT TWO STROKE SMELL
OWN: 1 1983 JOHN DEERE LIQUIFIRE 440
1 1973 JOHN DEERE JDX8 440
1 1982 JOHN DEERE SPORTFIRE 440
1 2000 SKIDOO MXZ 600
GOTTA LOVE THAT TWO STROKE SMELL
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Bob, Just fan heads turned so they flow the air like the free air heads would do..
Kenny
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"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
Long time! I like what youve done to the place!
it sure does look cool
Long time! I like what youve done to the place!
Mine is a piston ported engine, NOT reed valve.ICCSF 108 wrote:Kenny, I have a NOS pair of 440 CCW pistons but there for the piston ported engines not the reed valve ones $100.00 pr with rings, pins & C- clips + shipping..
Kenny
Are the pistons standard or oversized...020-.030?
I haven't opened it up yet to know what it looks like inside, but this is what I do know, It is LOCKED up tight and there is aluminum on the recoil side spark plug. Plugs look like I was running it to lean.
Here is something else to throw out there, I can get a 400 CCW for FREE, MY FAVORITE price
, and it looks like I can still get pistons and rings for it fairly easy, even over sized, Just in case I torch another one. How far over bore would I have to go to get it up to or past a 440 displacement. Any ideas?
I am definatley interested in the pistons and rings from you ICCFS 108, but will have to open it up before I can commit, OK? I am planning on getting after it this week or weekend.
As for the heads, ICCFS208 nailed it! But that is what makes him stand out, is those heads. At the shows I have taken him to that has people scratching their heads the most! And that is why I want to stay with a CCW.
Thanks for all the help!!!
Later,
Kenny
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Kenny, The pistons I have are standard 68mm & for the piston ported engines. Your cylinders will be steel or cast liners so all you'll have to do is scrape the aluminum out & hone them, Unless something caught a port & damaged it/them.. If you need a cyl or head & can furnish me with the casting numbers from them I might have used cylinders & heads??
Kenny
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AKA: Kenny, Grumpy, Mr. Richard Head
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?