340/spistons

[WinnipegStPaul9]

Great little movie. I think the last guy shown in the clip is named ART.

DA

[DeereKid9]

I can't understand the high cost. It only takes 5 minutes and 1 sec to make them. Huh?

[ICCSF 108]

PJ handled everything so I don't know much more than what he wrote back, it is in here someplace I believe, also I did send him 2 pistons 1 ea 295/S & 340/S. I don't think you can even try using a Dator piston too tall, but if they had the old 340/2 or what ever the last number is maybe a 5?? piston ported piston that would be much closer, but with the technaligy they use today, one of there old pistons probably would be out dated also & not of much use.. or be any cheaper, I agree if were wanting this done that price is rather good & if we can get the guy's to order then the price MIGHT go even lower yet. Guy's you can always use these as trading material down the road. & you know that they will NEVER get any cheaper down the road.

Grumpy

Carla (for Kenny) Kenny has been monitoring this while in Vietnam, but can't log in for some reason.

[WinnipegStPaul9]

Carla, tell Grumpy we miss him!!!!
DA

[jdsledsrgr8]

I support this cause. My reasoning is this: Our race sleds are rare; I think if we count up all the functional 295s, 340/s, Dator and CC; there would be 500 or less. Maybe I am wrong so correct me if so. But for argument sake lets say there are only 500 of our brand functional race sleds out there. That means all of us have a X/500 limited sled. If the lack of parts makes all of these sleds forced to be trailer queens then it is a fact people will lose interest in our sleds and in turn their value will decrease. Just look at the vintage car arena. People want to ride or least have the option to ride. If they can not do so without the risk of losing value because of a lack of parts then they will ultimately lose interest and thus be willing to pay less to own.

Now do not get me wrong I am not just thinking for the moment, I am only 40 years old and I plan on enjoying my sleds for the next 15-30 years but at some point circumstances will force me to sell them or at least pass them on. All of us have enjoyed and cursed the increased value of our brand in the past 10 years but I feel we are at critical point. We can be short sighted and enjoy the moment or we can plan for the future. Again I say we have a X/500 sled. Lets plan for the future; increase our current enjoyment, increase the interest in our sled and ultimately increase the value and desire of our brand.

If we are truely committed then lets all step up now! I say we ride the pony that has been started with the dator pistons, and get set up to have available pistons for the 295s, 340s and the CC. Put me down for a set for all 4 of the sleds when they become available.

[ICCSF 108]

I'm with this all the way, especially being someone else is handling it, " Go Chuck. " I'm not sure how hard it is to find 76-78 Cyclone & Liquifire 340 & 440 pistons & believe that one of the cheaper aftermarket mfg. are doing those & being the 78CC sleds use a std 340 reed piston I don't see a need to rush them in. Just my $.0875 worth.

Grumpy in The NAM

[TASKY]

Chuck, Will these be made in various oversizes or just standard bores?

[I500]

Thanks for that info Kenny.. Was hoping that you maybe had that customer order number so i wouldnt have to send in a jug and piston and start new . But that might be just as well. I know that there are other pistons that are really close in size and shape so i have decided to tear down an NOS motor for the 340/s. I will use this piston and jug to send to Wiseco to limit any confusion. At this time i wont say anything about overbores and quantities but will let Wiseco tell me what choices i will have and report back to you guys.

I did find that last thread from PJ and will include this in my package to Wiseco. Wont send the whole thread but just certain parts that may be helpful to clarify .
I already have my customer number all set up so here we go...............Wont be a quick process but its a good start. Will update as updates become available.

Thanks for all your support and much more will be needed

Thank You
Chuck Moser

[80spitfire]

As far as the oversize pistons go,I'm guessing they'll tell you that they can make .20 and .40 over. Supposedly they only make oversized pistons in .20 incraments. That's what Larry told me at least when I asked about .10 overs.

-Brian

[400brian]

Troy has found a couple of Wiseco pistons made for BSE engines that are dead ringers for 340/S pistons.
He has the part numbers and the casting numbers. We assume that they are just as obsolete, and the tooling just as unavailable as the 340/S. But,... if the tooling did exist, it might be helpful.

Not trying to muddy the waters, this is just something that has come to light in all the efforts to find a suitable replacement piston.

[I500]

Brian...... Thats why i want to use them from my NOS motor. I have 3 other motors that have pistons that are almost exact . Guess what?.. There all froze up with excessise scuff marks. Could it be that there is a differance? I really dont know but why take the chance.

[400brian]

Chuck, I understand, and support that line of thought.

It sounds like there are at least several other things to think about as well. Forged pistons have a different expansion rate than cast, so the OD might have to be adjusted. Obviously, Wiseco should have that expertise.

Kenny always maintained that if we do this, we should try to use commonly available rings, so as to simplify making them and replacing them. IMHO, they do need to be kept in their original higher than production position, at the very top of the piston. That's what makes them what they are.

Good luck in the endeavor, we need this.

[b.henrion]

I would be interested in two sets.

Thanks, Brian