Crimp on Electrical Connectors
Crimp on Electrical Connectors
Does anyone know where to find the crimp on electrical connectors found in the deere wiring harnesses? In particular I want to rebuild my 76 Cyclone harness, but I would assume that they all used the same style connector. They are like a spade connector but with a hook on one side to seat themselves in the plug bodies. I have checked 5 different supplier books at work, including McMaster and Carr, with no luck. Maybe I am confused as to what they would actually be called, didn't think it would be so hard to find these.
Adam Epp
Winnipeg, MB, Canada
74 400 (2 - sold)
75 800 (motor in pieces, next on the resto list)
75 X4 Special (bare tunnel, stripped)
76 340 Cyclone (resto in progress)
76 340 Cyclone (bare tunnel, stripped)
Winnipeg, MB, Canada
74 400 (2 - sold)
75 800 (motor in pieces, next on the resto list)
75 X4 Special (bare tunnel, stripped)
76 340 Cyclone (resto in progress)
76 340 Cyclone (bare tunnel, stripped)
Re: Crimp on Electrical Connectors
Here is a pic of the connectors Adam is talking about. We pulled on from a harness I had on the bench. I assume it would be the same in all these style of plugs.
Scott Kyle,
Liquifire: 77 (440) (2), 600: 73,74,75
Massey Whirlwind: 76 440 (2)
Mercury Hurricane 644: 72,73
OMC Snowcruiser: 66,68,70
Rupp: 70 34 Sprint
Allouettte Super Brute: 74 (5)
OTC Deere sled dyno
Liquifire: 77 (440) (2), 600: 73,74,75
Massey Whirlwind: 76 440 (2)
Mercury Hurricane 644: 72,73
OMC Snowcruiser: 66,68,70
Rupp: 70 34 Sprint
Allouettte Super Brute: 74 (5)
OTC Deere sled dyno
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Re: Crimp on Electrical Connectors
Grumpy was looking for original style connectors last week. Apparently more than one of us suggested he contact Scott Hewlett. I don't know if he has found anything yet or not. Kenny is up in Northern MN now, wrenching on the Bull Whip.
How about this: http://www.texasindustrialelectric.com/ ... minals.asp
How about this: http://www.texasindustrialelectric.com/ ... minals.asp
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Re: Crimp on Electrical Connectors
Thanks Brian, it said GM type so I will check with a friend at the dealership and see if he can get some for me.
Scott Kyle,
Liquifire: 77 (440) (2), 600: 73,74,75
Massey Whirlwind: 76 440 (2)
Mercury Hurricane 644: 72,73
OMC Snowcruiser: 66,68,70
Rupp: 70 34 Sprint
Allouettte Super Brute: 74 (5)
OTC Deere sled dyno
Liquifire: 77 (440) (2), 600: 73,74,75
Massey Whirlwind: 76 440 (2)
Mercury Hurricane 644: 72,73
OMC Snowcruiser: 66,68,70
Rupp: 70 34 Sprint
Allouettte Super Brute: 74 (5)
OTC Deere sled dyno
Re: Crimp on Electrical Connectors
Thanks for the info Brian, and Scott for looking into this. There appears to be 2 diferent sizes listed on that website, I think it would maybe be the one listed at the top of the page but I cannot be sure.
Adam Epp
Winnipeg, MB, Canada
74 400 (2 - sold)
75 800 (motor in pieces, next on the resto list)
75 X4 Special (bare tunnel, stripped)
76 340 Cyclone (resto in progress)
76 340 Cyclone (bare tunnel, stripped)
Winnipeg, MB, Canada
74 400 (2 - sold)
75 800 (motor in pieces, next on the resto list)
75 X4 Special (bare tunnel, stripped)
76 340 Cyclone (resto in progress)
76 340 Cyclone (bare tunnel, stripped)
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Re: Crimp on Electrical Connectors
Yes....these are GM terminals known as Packard 56 style. They come in male and female version. Plated brass and non plated brass. The specific ones that were used on the sleds were for 18 awg wire. Terminals that accept 14 to 16 awg wire are very easy to find @ good auto parts stores like NAPA just ask for Packard 56 or Delphi 56.
I buy mine (plated 18 awg for fire series) from a place in Michigan by the name of Terminal Supply. They have a website, unfortunatly at the moment I only have smarty phone access or I would post a link.
Delphi electric also has a web site where you can search the plastic housings. Most are still made today just maybe in a different color. I have to warn you that the Delphi site sucks you almost need to know the exact part number of the item to locate it.
To crimp these terminals correctly you need a special crimper. Napa sells one for about $20 that will work ok for just a few terminals. The real deal crimper cost in the $100 ball park.
I can post more info in a few days.
I also priced them @ a local chevy dealer. They could get them but the price they asked you would think they were made of gold.
I buy mine (plated 18 awg for fire series) from a place in Michigan by the name of Terminal Supply. They have a website, unfortunatly at the moment I only have smarty phone access or I would post a link.
Delphi electric also has a web site where you can search the plastic housings. Most are still made today just maybe in a different color. I have to warn you that the Delphi site sucks you almost need to know the exact part number of the item to locate it.
To crimp these terminals correctly you need a special crimper. Napa sells one for about $20 that will work ok for just a few terminals. The real deal crimper cost in the $100 ball park.
I can post more info in a few days.
I also priced them @ a local chevy dealer. They could get them but the price they asked you would think they were made of gold.
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Re: Crimp on Electrical Connectors
Dustin Elder
Salem, OH
Midmounts.... Lots and lots of midmounts...
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege."
Salem, OH
Midmounts.... Lots and lots of midmounts...
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege."
Re: Crimp on Electrical Connectors
Deere themselves have this terminal too, or did, I'm pretty sure
When we had to buy these insanely expensive electric terminal connector kits, although they did come in a JD green steel box with a JD logo on it, to service tractor harnesses, I am sure there were some of these terminals in there.
My point being, I imagine most JD dealers had these kits so they might still have them if everything else fails. Or they could be looked up I suppose by competent JD dealership personnel.
Our kits were rarely used and I'm not even sure where they are right now.
Greg
When we had to buy these insanely expensive electric terminal connector kits, although they did come in a JD green steel box with a JD logo on it, to service tractor harnesses, I am sure there were some of these terminals in there.
My point being, I imagine most JD dealers had these kits so they might still have them if everything else fails. Or they could be looked up I suppose by competent JD dealership personnel.
Our kits were rarely used and I'm not even sure where they are right now.
Greg
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I would not worry about the "special" crimping tool for the type 56 connectors as the only way to install these, and the reason that they are such a good connector, is that they are soldered.
If you buy them in quanity, like a box of 50-100, they are cheap.
If you buy them in quanity, like a box of 50-100, they are cheap.
Todd Schrupp
Milbank SD
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Re: Crimp on Electrical Connectors
Use to see them at Pep Boys but that has been a few years.
electrical connectors
You can by them right at the deer dealer here.
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I posted this a few months ago. I am sold on an outfit called Kwik Wire out of Fondu Lac WI. I send them my torn and tattered wiring harness and they send me back not only the orginal but a new wiring harness with all new wire and connectors. $100 plus shipping. I have also sent them the circuit board and they provide a brand new one of these and test every wire. They have a web site and specialize in ambulances and hot rod restorations, so doing a snowmobile wiring harness is a day in the park for them.
To me if you are doing a restoration it is a no brainer to put in a brand new wiring harness for $100.
To me if you are doing a restoration it is a no brainer to put in a brand new wiring harness for $100.
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Thanks Dustin.....that's the company where I bought my last batch. There price was very reasonable but if I remember they might have had a minimum order quantity.
As mentioned the unplated 14-16 awg are avaliable from deere. I have that number on my pc. I did buy a few of those but had issues crimping them on the 18 awg wire. But Todd is correct, I know some hotrod guys that just fold the tabs over with a pair of needle nose pliers then solder the connection
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Re: Crimp on Electrical Connectors
Here's some more info:
Delphi Electric web site (it really sucks, hard to find what you need. I type "56" in the search box, then check the results)
http://connectors.delphi.com/DCSGDMCS/D ... =56+series
Deere number U46662 (female) 16 AWG to 14 Awg
Napa 725147 (female) 16 AWG to 14 AWG
Deere number T34067 (male) 16 AWG to 14 AWG
Napa number 725145 (male) 16 AWG to 14 AWG
18 AWG are harder to find
Napa crimper
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Catal ... 0293961041
Deere electrical connector kit
https://jdparts.deere.com/partsmkt/docu ... torKit.htm
Not much in there that applies to the sleds. But I've purchased stuff out of my local dealers kit.
Here's a few pic's
DSC_3240 by nick80lf, on Flickr
DSC_3237 by nick80lf, on Flickr
Delphi Electric web site (it really sucks, hard to find what you need. I type "56" in the search box, then check the results)
http://connectors.delphi.com/DCSGDMCS/D ... =56+series
Deere number U46662 (female) 16 AWG to 14 Awg
Napa 725147 (female) 16 AWG to 14 AWG
Deere number T34067 (male) 16 AWG to 14 AWG
Napa number 725145 (male) 16 AWG to 14 AWG
18 AWG are harder to find
Napa crimper
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Catal ... 0293961041
Deere electrical connector kit
https://jdparts.deere.com/partsmkt/docu ... torKit.htm
Not much in there that applies to the sleds. But I've purchased stuff out of my local dealers kit.
Here's a few pic's
DSC_3240 by nick80lf, on Flickr
DSC_3237 by nick80lf, on Flickr
80 Liquifire (purchased 1996 ~ Running)
80 Liquifire (purchased 2010 ~ Running....Now)
80 Liquifire (purchased 2011 ~ Not running - I officially have a problem now)
83 Snowfire (purchased 2014 father/son restoration project)
78 Spitfire ~ sold (should have been shot for this)
80 Liquifire (purchased 2010 ~ Running....Now)
80 Liquifire (purchased 2011 ~ Not running - I officially have a problem now)
83 Snowfire (purchased 2014 father/son restoration project)
78 Spitfire ~ sold (should have been shot for this)
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Re: Crimp on Electrical Connectors
I have these in stock now.. ( GM 56 Terminals ) both male & female ends, NO plastic plug ends yet though..
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Chris Dotzler
Palisade, MN
to many old sled...so little time!!!
Palisade, MN
to many old sled...so little time!!!