I500 jitters already
- WinnipegStPaul9
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Re: I500 jitters already
We always had to register the serial number of the sled we entered in the I-500. Are you going to register both, or don't you have to do that for this race?
DA
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- HoosierDeereMan
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Re: I500 jitters already
Wade,
If you are serious about the 340/S I'll give you a couple of suggestions regarding issues I've had with my 340/S. The positive stops for the front swing arm act as a guillotine every time the suspension takes a hard impact and bottoms out. Over time the frame rails will crack and then break. You need to reinforce the slide rails under those stops. I thought mine was the exception to the rule until I saw Jon's I-500 340/S at the HOF. His suspension was so reinforced the slide rails looked like railroad irons! Replace the original CDI and stator with a Hewtech rewound stator and Fireplug CDI. The old "A" style Prestolite units and stators don't like the heat anymore after years of running. These things put me out of the VC ride the first two years.
Troy
If you are serious about the 340/S I'll give you a couple of suggestions regarding issues I've had with my 340/S. The positive stops for the front swing arm act as a guillotine every time the suspension takes a hard impact and bottoms out. Over time the frame rails will crack and then break. You need to reinforce the slide rails under those stops. I thought mine was the exception to the rule until I saw Jon's I-500 340/S at the HOF. His suspension was so reinforced the slide rails looked like railroad irons! Replace the original CDI and stator with a Hewtech rewound stator and Fireplug CDI. The old "A" style Prestolite units and stators don't like the heat anymore after years of running. These things put me out of the VC ride the first two years.
Troy
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Re: I500 jitters already
da , thanks for bringing reality to light , good point on having 2 half done sleds, troy thanks for the ideas and thanks in advance for many more . the rules lend themselves to updating for reliability such as using modern clutching and driveline and electronics the next few weeks will probably tell the story wade
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joe forgot the certificates for the 2015 vintage challenge
crossed the start/finish line twice at the 2013 and 2014 I500 on a 78 liquifire 440
certificate recipiant of the 13 vintage challenge !! on a 340/s
certificate recipient of the 14 vintage challenge !! on a 78 liquifire 440
joe forgot the certificates for the 2015 vintage challenge
crossed the start/finish line twice at the 2013 and 2014 I500 on a 78 liquifire 440
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Re: I500 jitters already
Lindork,lwb140 wrote:400brian wrote:Don't forget to wave at Rainville when you go by.oh my , I sure his luck this year will be better , the rainbird has been awefully silent on the forum lately especially about the i500 ...poke poke wade
When you pass me, you can wave...

Wade,
I am working on updating my 80 LF, buiding a practice sled, and rebuilding my toasted motor. I will be running basically the same machine as last year, but with a few updates including studs. Might try plactic ski's if there is time to work it out.
With Nicasil bores, Jerome crank, and Wisco Pro-Lite pistons, that motor should have been a runner. I could have left the coolant bolt loose on any motor, so I can't blame the Kawi on my mistake. Most important thing I can do this year is get some seat time before the race...
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- 400brian
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Re: I500 jitters already
Actually, I've already done that!When you pass me, you can wave...

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Re: I500 jitters already
Only once in the Vintage Challenge did that happen. Amost made up for two years of you eating snow400brian wrote:Actually, I've already done that!When you pass me, you can wave...

Bring the X-8 out for the I-500. You would not only be the oldest sled there, but the only mid-mount too. While I would still make fun of you, I might actually respect the effort...or not!
Later Liquidator,
-Joe
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- 400brian
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Re: I500 jitters already
Ahhhh..... RainDeere, you might recall, a number of us waved as we passed just LAST YEAR, TWICE!
And the year before that we stayed behind you just to be nice.
I'll let you guys do the ditch banging, I'll stick to the ride that "isn't" a race.
And the year before that we stayed behind you just to be nice.

I'll let you guys do the ditch banging, I'll stick to the ride that "isn't" a race.
'09 Vintage Challenge Survivor, and I wasn't late for supper!
'10, '11, '12, '13,'14,'15,'16,'17, '18, 19, 20, 21, 22 Vintage Challenge Survivor !
72 400 restored, Father bought new in '71
73 X8 restored
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'78 Spitfire in progress
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'73 Skiroule RTX 440, 500 mi.
Re: I500 jitters already
thats great stuff chris and i are wrenchin' though things here have been slow with harvest . several parts have shown up and we are getting some things figured out which is sometimes half the battle , wade
certificate recipiant of the 12 vintage challenge !! on a 78 liquifre 440,
certificate recipiant of the 13 vintage challenge !! on a 340/s
certificate recipient of the 14 vintage challenge !! on a 78 liquifire 440
joe forgot the certificates for the 2015 vintage challenge
crossed the start/finish line twice at the 2013 and 2014 I500 on a 78 liquifire 440
certificate recipiant of the 13 vintage challenge !! on a 340/s
certificate recipient of the 14 vintage challenge !! on a 78 liquifire 440
joe forgot the certificates for the 2015 vintage challenge
crossed the start/finish line twice at the 2013 and 2014 I500 on a 78 liquifire 440
Re: I500 jitters already
Believe it or not, i've actually considered this.... Just to say i did it....JoeRainville wrote: Bring the X-8 out for the I-500.
Later Liquidator,
-Joe

DE
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Midmounts.... Lots and lots of midmounts...
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege."
Re: I500 jitters already
I am sure that there were some X-8's in the race back in the along with a lot of boggy sleds.
Keep in mind this is not the 500 mile race your father ran but a shorter, but not leasurely, 175 miles.
Would love to see an older machine start and finish.
Keep in mind this is not the 500 mile race your father ran but a shorter, but not leasurely, 175 miles.
Would love to see an older machine start and finish.
Todd Schrupp
Milbank SD
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Re: I500 jitters already
Todd,
If you watch the old I-500 vid's, you can see a few X-4's in there. I belive a 73 JDX-4 complete with a steel tunnel and boggies finished in 74. Jesse knows more of that story. And in 75 you can see at least on JDX-4 (Special I think) running with the 340/s'. If I was going to run any mid-mount, it would probably be a 75 JDX-8, but it would be a much harder ride than a Liquifire.
-Joe
If you watch the old I-500 vid's, you can see a few X-4's in there. I belive a 73 JDX-4 complete with a steel tunnel and boggies finished in 74. Jesse knows more of that story. And in 75 you can see at least on JDX-4 (Special I think) running with the 340/s'. If I was going to run any mid-mount, it would probably be a 75 JDX-8, but it would be a much harder ride than a Liquifire.
-Joe
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Re: I500 jitters already
There was a 72 Derre that finished in 73 also correct.
Todd Schrupp
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Re: I500 jitters already
Jr Pederson finished in '72 on a 500. Of course, they weren't racing against sleds like Liquifires and el Tigres.

- 400brian
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Re: I500 jitters already
You guys really shouldn't even consider riding a mid-mount, it would be way too embarrassing for the hot shots to endure if you were to finish and they didn't.
It would be like being the Vikings, nobody expects you to win, so there would be no pressure on you. Just finishing would be huge. Waving at Rainville would be icing on the cake!
Honestly though, your body would take a severe beating, and you wouldn't be competitive at all in the rough or the twistys.
It would be like being the Vikings, nobody expects you to win, so there would be no pressure on you. Just finishing would be huge. Waving at Rainville would be icing on the cake!
Honestly though, your body would take a severe beating, and you wouldn't be competitive at all in the rough or the twistys.
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'10, '11, '12, '13,'14,'15,'16,'17, '18, 19, 20, 21, 22 Vintage Challenge Survivor !
72 400 restored, Father bought new in '71
73 X8 restored
'74 340 green machine
'74 X8 9 time VC finisher
'78 Spitfire in progress
2 '75 340S 1 running, one on deck
'78 LF 440 future CC clone
'73 Skiroule RTX 440, 500 mi.
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Re: I500 jitters already
400brian wrote: It would be like being the Vikings, nobody expects you to win, so there would be no pressure on you. Just finishing would be huge. Waving at Rainville would be icing on the cake!
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1976 Liquidator - I 500 raced by Jim Zimmer
1980 Spitfire
1982 Liquifire-Last sled my son helped me work on. He did most of the motor work.
1984 Trailfire
2007 Ski Doo GSX 500SS