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Moon Tree
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JDX6/295S Parts

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Ok im guilty i used the 295s to draw you in on a few parts that fit.but hey they are as rare as hens teeth.
i have dismantled a 1974 JDX6 of which all parts fit JDX6,some 295s, some trail-spit-snow-sprint-sport-liquifire, cyclone.
i have pictures of all parts which i can send upon request. here are the part #'s for each part. if you would like any individual part which is part of an assembly let me know.
Hood including headlight am52421 m63788
Fuel Tank Tray am52057 295s
Fuel Tank, cap, gauge, p/u am52031 am52482 am52039 am52115
air box/hose am52568 m64623
recoil m65405 295s 340s cyclone liquifire
recoil door m63802 295s
Left door am52979/m64523 295s
Frame am52839 am52903
Engine mount base m64500
cross bars m63812
Tach am52346 spit, trail, snow sprint
motor 400-22 turns over running condition??
speed am52343 295s 340s cyclone liqui spit trail

now that you have seen it all how can you get this great offer :bonk:
please text me or call me @ 616-836-8031. i have limited access to computer.
''76 Cylone 440
'77 Cyclone 440
'77 Cyclone 440
'77 Cyclone 340
'77 Liquifire 440
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Re: JDX6/295S Parts

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The " Tach am52346 spit, trail, snow sprint " Won't work on a Kioritz engine.. Unless your needing it for a Kawi engine??

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Re: JDX6/295S Parts

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ICCSF 108 wrote:The " Tach am52346 spit, trail, snow sprint " Won't work on a Kioritz engine.. Unless your needing it for a Kawi engine??

Kenny
Kenny, it does. I recently figured this out. I always wondered why there were so many of those early tachs floating around...turns out they were used on the Kawi powered sleds as well.

They don't work on the Kioritz engines with CDI, just the points sleds.

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I also found out that the Sun Sno-Tach's also don't work on the Kioritz CDI Ign. for some reason?? They probably wouldn't work on the Kohlers either??

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I gather that the Kohlers and the Kawis used a similar design ign coil. The Prestolites were the odd balls, the multi pole stator gives then more AC cycles, which is what the tach counts.

I believe the points tach works on the Kohlers as well.

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Brian, The Sno-twisters used the prsetolite just like the Deere's ( 340/S&295/S same connectors, Not sure when or if they changed to anything else at a later date?? ) that is why I can't get the Sun Tachs to work..

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OK Kenny, You're correct about the Kohlers used in the Mercs with the prestolites. Same deal as with the Deeres.

I should have been more specific. It appears that the 8k tachs used on the points ign Deeres, also work on the Kohlers used in the Spitfires, and the Kawi powered sleds.

All these engines use a "shoe" type lighting coil, that is the thing common to all.

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'74 340 green machine
'74 X8 9 time VC finisher
'78 Spitfire in progress
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That is what is refered to as a 2-pole tach.
With an 8 or 6 pole lighting coil a specific tach is required.
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so did the cdi update kits for the 800 come with a new tach ?? about had to have i spose wade
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SOOOO JDT are you saying that IF I put a 3cyl, 6 pole Sun Sno-Tach like the Kawi or Fuji 3 cylinders used then it might work on the Deere's?
2 Pole tach is usually used on a 1 banger, 4 on a twin & 6 on a 3 cyl. on most sleds with CDI except the ones with Prestolite Ign. I guess?? at least from my experience...
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"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
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lwb140 wrote:so did the cdi update kits for the 800 come with a new tach ?? about had to have i spose wade
Yes, the update kits included a new tach.

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'10, '11, '12, '13,'14,'15,'16,'17, '18, 19, 20, 21, 22 Vintage Challenge Survivor !
72 400 restored, Father bought new in '71
73 X8 restored
'74 340 green machine
'74 X8 9 time VC finisher
'78 Spitfire in progress
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'78 LF 440 future CC clone
'73 Skiroule RTX 440, 500 mi.
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ICCSF 108 wrote:SOOOO JDT are you saying that IF I put a 3cyl, 6 pole Sun Sno-Tach like the Kawi or Fuji 3 cylinders used then it might work on the Deere's?
2 Pole tach is usually used on a 1 banger, 4 on a twin & 6 on a 3 cyl. on most sleds with CDI except the ones with Prestolite Ign. I guess?? at least from my experience...
Kenny
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I understand why a shoe type ignition coil would have to change depending on the number of cylinders, but why should the lighting coil change?

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'10, '11, '12, '13,'14,'15,'16,'17, '18, 19, 20, 21, 22 Vintage Challenge Survivor !
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73 X8 restored
'74 340 green machine
'74 X8 9 time VC finisher
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I have know Idea? all I know is that aftermarket snowmobile tachs are marked 2, 4, or 6 Pole..

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The number of poles determines the number of pulses per revolution.
Two pole is the most common on vintage sleds and produce two pulses per rev.

If you were to put a 4 pole tach on an engine with a two pole coil it will only read half the actual RPM.

As wattage requirements increased over the years due to halogen lights, hand warmers, Misc heaters, ect there was a need for higher output coils.
Engineeres came up with 4-6-8 pole designs. Wattages rose to over 200 on some late model sleds.

Some old machines only had 40 watt coils.

The type of ignition has nothing to due with the number of poles on teh lighting system.
In the case of the 800 CDI update a new tach was required because the stator plate had more lighting coils not beasude it was a CDI sytem.
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Re: JDX6/295S Parts

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all that being said i'm still wondering if anyone wants the tach? :boohoo:
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