No traction
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FireRider34
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No traction
Well i started my liquifre up today and it wouldnt go any were it just sat there and spun i have a bad left leafspring could this be effecting it by not having enough wait on the rear end orotherwise known as to much ski pressure? any help will be most appreciated!
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harleysportster
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Re: No traction
First thing I would check is the condition of the drive belt. If it is old and glazed over, it is time for a new one. Another sign is how far it sets down into the secondary clutch. A new belt will raise above the sheave and a worn belt will be below the outer edge.
Can you get the track to spin if the rear of thr sled is raised off the ground?
Can you get the track to spin if the rear of thr sled is raised off the ground?
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FireRider34
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Re: No traction
Well yes it is worn and i have the new belt but the track spins on the ground and the sled wont move, ill try my new belt tomarrow
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Re: No traction
What are you trying to get the sled to move on?? are the skies froze to the ground?
More than likely the skis are rusted & won't move over the snow properly, try rocking the sled up on one ski then the other to get the sled to move then just ride it for a while to get the skies shiny..
Kenny
More than likely the skis are rusted & won't move over the snow properly, try rocking the sled up on one ski then the other to get the sled to move then just ride it for a while to get the skies shiny..
Kenny
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FireRider34
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Re: No traction
The skis are brand new and i broke them from the snow so i think its ski pressure, ill try my new belt tomarow
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Re: No traction
IF the track is already spinning then a new belt is not going to help the movement problem, If the track isn't moving ( spinning ) then a new belt should help..
you might try moving the sled to a different location & then see if it moves under it's own power..
Ski pressure has nothing to do with the problem as your explaining it..
Ken
you might try moving the sled to a different location & then see if it moves under it's own power..
Ski pressure has nothing to do with the problem as your explaining it..
Ken
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"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
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harleysportster
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Re: No traction
If you are sitting on a patch of ice, the cleated track will just spin away. The tracks will also spin on black-top and concrete.
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FireRider34
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Re: No traction
ok so my ski has nothing to do with itand the track spins im going to pull it out of the back yard and get it into less snow and c how it does.
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Re: No traction
i had this problem with my 80 Liquifire at the second HOF ride we all went on, stuck in the pavement. NEVER did get it corrected. Track spun, front end stuck to the ground, other L-fire's went across just fine, however i was running hard bars, not carbides.
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FireRider34
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Re: No traction
Wel one problem after another im starting to ask my self if it was worth it to try and fix this thing well i got fresh gas and oil today and it fouled the plugs. And we dont have powder we have about 6 inches of hard packed and its all ice like but i pushed realy hard on the sled today and it moved another 15 feet before it died out. this sled is full of problems lol but i hope it will be worth it..... 
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harleysportster
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Re: No traction
Stop by the chat room
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Re: No traction
These sleds are 30 years old. Problems should be expected unless you completely go through the machine, and even then, things still fail.
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FireRider34
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Re: No traction
i agree with all of you well i sprung the money and ordered all my gaskest and seals any one have an idea on pistons found 1 set is there any others out there?
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harleysportster
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Re: No traction
DennisKirk should have them as well as Pat's Small Engine. When rebuilding an engine, you must have someone measure the bore to see if it is still within specs for the standard pistons or require an over-bore with over-bore pistons.
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