Well it has reared it's ugly head again.
The mysteriuos "No Spark Under Compression" gremlin.
You would think that as many times as I have run into this I would have learned it's secret but it still baffles me every time.
So I had this hot little one lunger that I did a rebuild on after I rode it two months ago.
It ran like it had a bad seal and it also had a very slight noise when you rolled it over.
So after I fixed everything else I torn the engine down to nothing and found yes, a bad seal but also found a roasted bearing that I posted a picture of last month.
So with all new bearings, seals and gaskets I reinstalled the little 246 Japanesse motor back in the red and white chassis.
Compression tested at 130 as before the tear down and the brand new spark plug I put in it had excellent snappy spark while sitting on the head.
I did not re-ring this project as the cylinder bore looked like new and the engine had a beautiful port and polish job on it.
Only 1600 miles on this 1974 GP-F.
The fun begin when I went to start it for the first time. It popped on the second pull and fired on the third but only ran for about 10 seconds than died.
I pulled and pulled and all it would do is putter and backfire out both the carb and the exhaust.
So I grab the origianl spark plug and threaded it in. After yanking and cusssing for 20 minutes I gave up for the night.
Next day same crap. Pop, sputter, backfire but no positive signs of life.
I put the new plug back in.
All I can say is Yamaha makes one sturdy recoil because I worked the bejesus out of that thing for an hour.
Everytime I checked the spark it was great. I checked it in head with an external spark indcicator and all looked like it was a runner but no bark.
I stewed over everything for an hour. Rechecked timing, gaps, carb, Pulled the flywheel in pure desporation.
So I grab a different used plug off the bench and put that in. One pull and it was alive.
I thought I was dreaming so I shut it off and tried it again. One pull and it was running. Lights working and all.
So what was happening was a brand new spark plug was not firing under compression and neither was the used plug that powered the sled last month.
A brand new plug? Seen it before and even though I hope I wont I bet I see it again.
Why??
So on to the test drive. This little and I mean little 246cc single ROCKS!!
Very fast.
How fast? Somewhere out there on the trail is a guy still trying to figure out what is wrong with his Z440.
I have no idea who did the hop up on this tiny engine but is far above it's original 22 HP.
No spark under compression....Revisited
No spark under compression....Revisited
Todd Schrupp
Milbank SD
Milbank SD
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Re: No spark under compression....Revisited
Todd,
You're not alone. I've been puzzled by this one before myself. I'd love to understand why this happens.
Nick
You're not alone. I've been puzzled by this one before myself. I'd love to understand why this happens.
Nick
80 Liquifire (purchased 1996 ~ Running)
80 Liquifire (purchased 2010 ~ Running....Now)
80 Liquifire (purchased 2011 ~ Not running - I officially have a problem now)
83 Snowfire (purchased 2014 father/son restoration project)
78 Spitfire ~ sold (should have been shot for this)
80 Liquifire (purchased 2010 ~ Running....Now)
80 Liquifire (purchased 2011 ~ Not running - I officially have a problem now)
83 Snowfire (purchased 2014 father/son restoration project)
78 Spitfire ~ sold (should have been shot for this)