starts but wont shut off

jdriderinny · Post by **jdriderinny** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:36 pm

hey guys i have a 76 340 cyclone that starts fine (always on first few pulls) but now i cant get it to shut off. replaced key switch and kill switch and still nothing would anybody have any ideas what to check next.

JDXspec · Post by **JDXspec** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:22 pm

Theres a wire coming off your CDi connector the goes to the dash sure sure that is connected. The eng will run w/o the wires connected. You must ground it out to shut it off.

harleysportster · Post by **harleysportster** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:27 pm

As JDX mentioned, start with checking the plug connector at the engine for the main wiring harness. It has to be plugged in to stop the engine.
If the white wire was removed from the connector due to the service bulletin issued back in the day, check to see if it is connected directly to the white wire at the ignition switch. This must be hooked up to shut off the engine.

jdriderinny · Post by **jdriderinny** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:51 pm

i just checked wires and i just noticed that the black wire is broke at the cdi box could this be my problem. white wire looks to be ok all the way thru

harleysportster · Post by **harleysportster** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:59 pm

Yes, that black wire gets connected to the white wire of the wiring harness thru the connector unless it was removed as I stated earlier.

jdriderinny · Post by **jdriderinny** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:23 pm

thanks guys i guess i need a cdi box then, wire is broke off right at the box where the wires go in, unless u guys now of anyway bypass that wire or another way to shut off the sled that wont hurt it. after seeing joe rainvilles parts supply i wonder if he has one laying around( i live about 40 minites from him) figured this would happen when we had snow and i could ride.

harleysportster · Post by **harleysportster** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:42 pm

Thats to bad, there is no way to safely repair the wire. The only solution is to replace the cdi box. That is not going to be cheap unless you can find a known good used one.

Mr. Deere · Post by **Mr. Deere** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:01 pm

if you are in no rush what i used to do is shut the fuel off and let it run it self out. BOB

JDXspec · Post by **JDXspec** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:06 pm

I wonder if you could short out both leads (red and white wire going to the coils) with the kill switch or key. Its not pretty But it may shut it down w/o ruining the CDI box or u plug the cdi connector that will shut it down for sure w/o hurting the cdi. (not real quick though) just a thought, not recommending it

harleysportster · Post by **harleysportster** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:32 pm

JDX gave me an idea, since the cdi should be replaced anyway what ever damage is not going to matter. You could install a double pole switch somewhere and unhook the red and white leads to the external coils and hook each of those wires to switch. Then run a wire from each opposite terminal of the switch to the correct coil. Figure out which direction of the switch "turns on" the wires and the engine will run. To shut off the engine, move the switch to the opposite side. All the switch is doing is disconnecting the power to the external coils thus loosing the spark.
Note... this is only a suggestion, not responsible if the stator burns out.

Mr. Deere · Post by **Mr. Deere** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:19 pm

I like that harly not responsible for any damage i would be allitle wary right now if i were him.

BOB

Deere Daze · Post by **Deere Daze** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:34 pm

I agree with Rich 100% on this...Ed

harleysportster · Post by **harleysportster** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:33 am

Rich is right as usual on this one for the point of safety.

jdriderinny · Post by **jdriderinny** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:03 am

i found a cdi box for it and am going to put that on thanks for all the help guys .Oh by the way we do have snow down here in western ny some trails are closed because of trees down from the ice we had but i have heard the ones that are open are in pretty good shape