Clutch removal JDX8

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Clutch removal JDX8

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Will I need a puller or a clutch tool to remove the comet off a KEC440/21 motor?
What tools are recomended to do this so I can get to the crank seals?
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the short answer is yes, however, it can be removed using the following steps:
1. turn the sled on its side so the clutch is facing up,
2. take the bolt out of the clutch
3. fill the bore of the clutch almost to the top with automatic tranny fluid
4. find a grade 8 3/4 fine thread bolt and thread it by hand into the clutch bore
5. put an impact on the bolt and run it in.

The bolt will make the fluid press against the end of the crank and the clutch will pop right off. its a little messy, but it works! Good luck

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Thanks for the tip! I'd never have thought of that. I'll give it a try.
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this method worked great on my spitfire 94c comet when i couldnt find a puller. only thing i might add is to use some teflon tape on the threads of the bolt to insure a good seal and wrap a rag behind the clutch to catch some of the fluid. gotta love the sound when it pops off. wife came running out to the garage to see what the noise was.
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This should be interesting. Can't wait to get to work on it this week. Thanks for the added tips.
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I would consider purchasing the proper puller for the job, It is a worth while investment and they are not that much money. I bought mine for $25, works great and no mess to clean up afterwards.

I have had to improvise in the past to get certain clutches off, but like to use the proper pullers when advaible.
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The proper pullers to remove flywheels and clutches are a mandatory investment if you ask me.

I have used mine countless times in the last 5 years.

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I agree, a good puller is a must have item. I have a flange type puller(I'm used to calling it a "steering wheel puller") and I might have a three jaw type too. What I was wondering about in my original question was is there a certain kind of puller you can get from a hardware store that works well enough, or do I need to invest in a sled specific tool for a comet clutch removal job? It doesn't appear that their is much to grab onto or bolt into.
Thanks for the advice everyone.
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this is the one i would recomend.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EPI-COME ... 25618b8c96

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OK, that looks like what I was thinking of as a clutch specific puller. I don't own one...yet. Thanks for the link! I'm still going to try the trans fluid trick first since I just want to see if it works too.
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kiedro44 wrote:I agree, a good puller is a must have item. I have a flange type puller(I'm used to calling it a "steering wheel puller") and I might have a three jaw type too. What I was wondering about in my original question was is there a certain kind of puller you can get from a hardware store that works well enough, or do I need to invest in a sled specific tool for a comet clutch removal job? It doesn't appear that their is much to grab onto or bolt into.
Thanks for the advice everyone.
shouldnt use a jaw type puller on a clutch. i know the manuals i have read say not to. like i said i used fluid ( i actually had some old brake fluid sitting around from my Kawasaki brake swap) on the 94c comet clutch and it worked fine. besides the one piece puller, ive also seen a clutch puller pusher rod being sold for the 94c.
http://www.snowmobileclutchpullers.com/product/7-205817
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I ended up buying a clutch puller from MFG Supply(they were cheaper than Dennis Kirk) and it worked great on the comet clutch. Used a jaw type puller to get off the flywheel on the other side. Crank seals were easy to install then.
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kiedro44 wrote:I ended up buying a clutch puller from MFG Supply(they were cheaper than Dennis Kirk) and it worked great on the comet clutch. Used a jaw type puller to get off the flywheel on the other side. Crank seals were easy to install then.
eeeek , check to make sure your flywheel isnt bent all to heck before your button it all back up , its generally not reccomended to pull on them any way but the center hub because of damaing the flywheel , not to be a downer , just sayin wade
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Every time I ever tried to do that on a CCW before I found out it was wrong, I bent the ring gear.
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