Looking at the photos of Don's restored engine, I realized that I am missing the cover that goes over the coils.
Anyone have one they can part with?
wanted '78 coil cover
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400brian
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wanted '78 coil cover
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72 400 restored, Father bought new in '71
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'74 X8 9 time VC finisher
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Re: wanted '78 coil cover
I believe the 76-78 are all the same?
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JoeRainville
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Re: wanted '78 coil cover
Linder,
The coil covers on the 76-78 LF's all interchange. But here is the bad news: I do not think they should not be used. By blocking airflow around the coils, the cover only works to shorten their life. If you do use one, machine vents in the top and bottom to let air move through them.
-Rainville
Note: I edited this post to reflect that my opinion is my opinion, and not a documented fact. I retain the right to continue to edit this post until I am either more or less sure or unsure of my opinion:>)
The coil covers on the 76-78 LF's all interchange. But here is the bad news: I do not think they should not be used. By blocking airflow around the coils, the cover only works to shorten their life. If you do use one, machine vents in the top and bottom to let air move through them.
-Rainville
Note: I edited this post to reflect that my opinion is my opinion, and not a documented fact. I retain the right to continue to edit this post until I am either more or less sure or unsure of my opinion:>)
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Re: wanted '78 coil cover
Brian, I have one if you want it...400brian wrote:Looking at the photos of Don's restored engine, I realized that I am missing the cover that goes over the coils.
Anyone have one they can part with?
'76 440 cyclone
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
'80 Liquifire(sold)
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Re: wanted '78 coil cover
Rainville was there a bulletin on that? That I was never aware of? Knowone ever said to take the one off the Dator? same cover same coils..
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"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
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Re: wanted '78 coil cover
Actually Raindeere, Kenny and I were just talking about maybe it would be best not to have the cover on it, for just that reason.
So there, we're way a head of ya.
But Don's just looks so nice......
Interestingly, JDParts.com only lists the coil cover up to serial 80,000.
Which I believe leaves out the '78s. So I'm wondering if the '78 LF originally had it?
So there, we're way a head of ya.
But Don's just looks so nice......
Interestingly, JDParts.com only lists the coil cover up to serial 80,000.Which I believe leaves out the '78s. So I'm wondering if the '78 LF originally had it?
'09 Vintage Challenge Survivor, and I wasn't late for supper!
'10, '11, '12, '13,'14,'15,'16,'17, '18, 19, 20, 21, 22 Vintage Challenge Survivor !
72 400 restored, Father bought new in '71
73 X8 restored
'74 340 green machine
'74 X8 9 time VC finisher
'78 Spitfire in progress
2 '75 340S 1 running, one on deck
'78 LF 440 future CC clone
'73 Skiroule RTX 440, 500 mi.
Re: wanted '78 coil cover
I have 4 original 1978 440 Liquifires, coil covers on all of them. Have owned them since early 80's, haven't changed a coil on any of them yet, and they are still used every other day.
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Re: wanted '78 coil cover
My 78 has a cover. I still have my cover on the 76 with original coils. Is the thought of removing it just someones idea or was there a bulletin?
'76 440 cyclone
'76 440 liquifire
'78 440 Cyclone
'75 JDX8 (sold to a member here)
'78 Liquifire(CrossCountry Clone)
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Re: wanted '78 coil cover
Hi Guys,
There is no bulletin or official guidance from Deere on the coil covers that I have ever seen.
This recomendation comes from experiance (melting coils) and good practices. I actually melted the body's of two new coils back in the 80's when I slightly overheated my 76 Liquifire. So I do not run the cover at all. Bolting them to a motor that runs 160 to 180 deg F and then covering them does not seem like a good recipie for long life, but many have survived just fine in under those conditions.
And if you look at some modern sleds, like my Sno Pro Cats, the coil is mounted on chassis, away from the engine vibration and heat.
Feel free to use or discard this suggestion as you see fit.
Thanks,
-Joe Rainville
There is no bulletin or official guidance from Deere on the coil covers that I have ever seen.
This recomendation comes from experiance (melting coils) and good practices. I actually melted the body's of two new coils back in the 80's when I slightly overheated my 76 Liquifire. So I do not run the cover at all. Bolting them to a motor that runs 160 to 180 deg F and then covering them does not seem like a good recipie for long life, but many have survived just fine in under those conditions.
And if you look at some modern sleds, like my Sno Pro Cats, the coil is mounted on chassis, away from the engine vibration and heat.
Feel free to use or discard this suggestion as you see fit.
Thanks,
-Joe Rainville
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Re: wanted '78 coil cover
Joe does make a good point.
Many manufactors have moved the coil mounting point away from the engine.
And the CDI box for that mater.
His point makes since to me.
Many manufactors have moved the coil mounting point away from the engine.
And the CDI box for that mater.
His point makes since to me.
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We weren't Questioning Rainville's motives or expertise just his experience 
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"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?