Deeres are better

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69camaro
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Post by 69camaro »

I know it's not Deere but google the 2010 Polaris Rush. I'm going to have to buy low mile older Polaris's or keep fixing my 99XC600 or switch to Arctic Cat for my trail sled. This thing is hidious, it looks lile a stubby little toad and leaves throw up in my mouth. :lol22: It is probably a great snow cross sled and fun to ride in warmer weather. It is about as nice looking as a 1970 Wheel Horse. Sorry, worse than a 1970 Wheel Horse. Really just not for me at all. All John Deeres sleds are about 100 times better looking than that thing. OOOOUUUUCCCCCHHHHHH Polaris. I'm embarrassed. :lol22: Duane
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Post by b00stinGTP »

I saw a picture of that thing the other day... not my taste.
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Post by ChickenRat »

I actually don't mind it. I think it is better looking than the IQ's. I also like the new REV XP look as well.

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It's crazy isn't it. Even the magazines are starting to complain about many of the new sleds and how they are not real great trail sleds. It seems like a broken record about how many people I hear talking about how they think many of the new sleds are not made for trail riding anymore. No storage, no wind protection, too expensive, and not very appealing to look at. etc. Duane
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Post by smitfire »

dont mind it, not many people ride trails anymore
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Post by tmartin »

Looks to me like they forgot about half the parts. They still dont even come close to the ski doo rev with weight and it dont even look like a snowmobile.
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Post by Caleb55 »

My '70 Wheel Horse takes great offence to your comments. :lol22: But on the other hand, that new Polaris lookes uggggly!!!
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Post by S_Kyle »

looks a bit like a nytro. Not sure I like the placement of the rad, I can see bad things happening to it.
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Post by ruppster »

I think it is a very unique design and Rumor has it that at least 1 other Manufactuer has a similar design coming forward also. I don't think it is a snocross design--I believe it is designed for trail use--Looks like a great design with kinda a swingarm effect. I really believe most of the new designs and technology will be in the suspensions, and 4 stroke engines. NO ONE TRAIL RIDES ANYMORE!! Did I see that in this post. Wow--If you ride in MI,WI, MN, and southern parts of CANADA--thats what most of us do----And of course the open lakes. I find the open fields and farm areas that I grew up riding are the areas that are disappearing. We trail ride 200+ miles a day and there is nothing like a sled with a Good Suspension System that makes for an enjoyable day of snowmobiling. Heading up the the MI -UP for a weekend ride myself. Hoping for another 700 miles of great trails. The UP is the Best --If you like snow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by 79 Spitfire »

It looks mean but I don't know, I kind of like it but looks to have a weird looking back end. Personally I would buy a new Ski-Doo MXZ.
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Post by cosmo440 »

This sled is about taking the next step in snowmobiles. After this, referring to the rear skid, the next step is to change the transmission. We have gone from leaf spring to a-arms, bogie wheels to long travel rear skids, adjustable steering columns, carbs to EFI to direct injection, less then 1/2" lugs to now 3" lugs. Polaris has taken the next step in snowmobile rear suspension, something that no other manufacturer has produced for the masses. It may not look conventional, but niether was the REV when it first came out. Being that people with short tracks sometimes sled 200miles a day, this is where you can test the design. Not saying that long track riders don't ride this much, but you need to start somewhere. The front end is proven, the engine is proven, the rear end looks even more durable then the traditional skid. Time will tell, but it is not necessarilly how something looks, it is how it performs. I applaud Polaris for taking that next step, considering the turmoil from the 900 mess a few years ago.
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Post by 79spitfire#100340 »

Just another step in the wrong direction!With the economy the way it is the big 4 had better stop try to reinvent the wheel every year.Instead of spending big money on R&D of unfunctional sleds ,they should stick to their proven technology for more than a year or two.This will lower their per unit cost to a somewhat more tolerable level for the consumer.Look at what it cost to get set up for family of 4 today vs 10 years ago,add on fuel prices .Point blank,the big 4 are putting their product out of the price range of thier long time faithful middle class consumer.Which ,by the way accounts for about 80 % of their annual sales.Hopefully someone in power out there will read this and keep themselves from ending up like the other big one's,you know The billion dollar borrowing BIG 3!Just my .0000340
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Post by cosmo440 »

The days of the $5000 sled are gone. My 01 Polaris cost me $6999 CAN, and after all the prep and extras I bought, it was around $8000 by the end. You will never see a sled under $5000, except maybe the 120 class, which is still high at $2400. The fact is, the consumer wants what is being made today. There is a small percentage that would love the cheaper sleds, but it is not going to happen, hence the cheap sleds only have a fan cooled motor, and nof frills. Researce has shown that most snomobillers are in there 40's, a family and a high income (somewhere around $70,000/year). They want what is being made right now. Why do you think the meat of all lineups cost $10,000+? Don't forget, EPA wants to control the emissions so the engines are getting more complex and expensive. If it were not for the EPA, sleds would still have carbs and cost far less then what they do now. The Polaris Indy and Edges were great sleds, cheap, easy to work on, reliable, but people do not want the OLD tech, they want something new, something someone else dose not have. I don't necessarilly disagree with your statement, I would love the cheaper sleds, but this is the reallity. This is why I have chosen to restore and get my Deeres running, I love sledding but can't afford the new stuff.
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Post by S_Kyle »

I don't know what to say. I would love a new sled but refuse to go into the hole for a toy. So I figure newer used sleds blow up and break just like the real old ones so I am sticking to relics for now. A friends 2001 ski doo blew a stator, $840 later he back on the trail for now. I almost think I have more fun on an old sleds than some of the guys on new sleds that go A - B real fast. You don't get to see a lot at 90 miles an hour.
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I love the comments. I agree with some and disagree with others. I am in my 40's and I do have the income to buy one of these new sleds. I however have no desire to even look at one of these sleds. I find the looks repulsive to a point of no interest. Honestly I have not found a trail this season I have needed any more than my 10" of travel. The days of $5000 sleds may be gone but so are their sales. Can anyone really believe they are not going to be covered with snow from everything so open and I think a wet rider in the winter is miserable. What about safety, how about a stud in the back, sounds fun to me. I tell ya I am sure glad I got into the Deeres because being a guy that has trail ridden easily 40,000 plus miles in the past 33 years I do not see much of a future for trail riding. I mean what looks better, a 69 Camaro or a Honda Element. Technology doesn't have to look ugly. I truley believe a trail sled needs some standards to be a truley good trail sled. 1-I do not want to be any colder than I have to be. 2-I need some storage for my hat, maps, lighter gloves, snacks etc. 3-I want to sit down almost all of the time. 4-I want a nice looking sled. 5-I do not buy overpriced items. Honestly I would love to take a step back. I think a $6000 Edge looks pretty nice now. :lol22:
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