295/S CDI

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monte44
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295/S CDI

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WIll the AM54169 CDI work on my 295 if I do a plug change?
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Yes, that's the correct CDI.
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Can Someone post a pic or at least explain how to do a CDI wiring change from the 295/S stock old style to the AM54169 CDI (liquifire CDI box) it will work with a wiring change correct. Wiring is not one of strongest skills so if you can make it simple for me!!!!

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Aaron,

You are going from the original stock 295/S trigger and stator with the 3 rubber plug ins to a rectangular 6 wire plug in on the CDI correct?

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The wiring on the sled is the original with the three round oval plugs (one white and two black). The NOS CDI I have has two circular plugs. The one plug has three wires coming out of the box to the round plug red,green and white. The other plug has two wires coming out of the box to the other round plug blue and yellow. The other wires on the the box are for the coils(red and white) the black wire with the round wire terminal is the ground but there is also one more black wire coming out of the box with a flat female terminal where does that go?? I know what a mess!!!!
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Aaron,

I had to update my 295/S ignition recently also.

The black wire with the round loop terminal end is the ground for the CDI box. It secures under one of the CDI mounting bolts. Look at the main plug in on the fan tower of your engine, you will see a short 2 or 3 inch long black wire with a white insolated cover on the end. That second black wire from the CDI with the flat female end connects here. This is for the kill switch.

I'll look tonight and make you a diagram for the trigger and stator colors.

Troy
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'75 340/S 2011 & 2012 Vintage Challenge finisher.
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'78 Liquifire 340,440
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hewtech has this info on its website i wired up my 340/s cdi this evening but my cheat sheet is in the shop wade
certificate recipiant of the 12 vintage challenge !! on a 78 liquifre 440,
certificate recipiant of the 13 vintage challenge !! on a 340/s
certificate recipient of the 14 vintage challenge !! on a 78 liquifire 440
joe forgot the certificates for the 2015 vintage challenge
crossed the start/finish line twice at the 2013 and 2014 I500 on a 78 liquifire 440
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Aaron,

I checked out the triggers and stators last night. I have both the 295S "A" style and the later "B" style versions. Here is what I came up.

The two black plugs on your 295S is for the timing trigger. They connect from your 295S wiring to the CDI box 3 wire plug as follows:
Black to Red
White to Green
Red to White

The lone White plug is for the lighting coil and connects to the 2 wire plug as follows:

White to Yellow
Black to Blue

The rest:
White to #1 cyl. coil
Red to #2 cyl. coil
Black with round wire terminal is CDI ground
Black with spade end is for the kill switch.

I converted mine to all "B" style from a donor 440/22 engine. It's not the correct plugs ins for a 295 but at least they are factory Deere connectors and the "B" style rectangular stuff seems to be the most common.

Good Luck
Troy
'72 400
'73 400, (2)500's, 600
'74 295/S (restored) 2010 HOF poker run survivor.
'75 800, JDX8,
'75 340/S 2011 & 2012 Vintage Challenge finisher.
'76 (2)400's
'78 Liquifire 340,440
'79 Spitfire
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I just read Wade's post and I feel pretty stupid! Thanks for the info Wade. I did check Hewtech's wiring diagram against what I came up with and somehow they matched! I better buy a lottery ticket! Better yet I'll buy a Sportfire raffle ticket! :lol22:

Aaron, not sure what you are planning on using for connections but Hewtech sells the "B" style connector ends. You mentioned wiring not being your strong suit, but I would highly recommend soldering and heat shrinking any wire splices that you have. Those crimp butt splices just aren't worth the risk in my opinion.

Troy
'72 400
'73 400, (2)500's, 600
'74 295/S (restored) 2010 HOF poker run survivor.
'75 800, JDX8,
'75 340/S 2011 & 2012 Vintage Challenge finisher.
'76 (2)400's
'78 Liquifire 340,440
'79 Spitfire
"If it has Tits, Tires, or Tracks it's gonna cost you money!"
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it was luck i found it i was searching old posts and came up with a link to hewtechs info what a great site wade
certificate recipiant of the 12 vintage challenge !! on a 78 liquifre 440,
certificate recipiant of the 13 vintage challenge !! on a 340/s
certificate recipient of the 14 vintage challenge !! on a 78 liquifire 440
joe forgot the certificates for the 2015 vintage challenge
crossed the start/finish line twice at the 2013 and 2014 I500 on a 78 liquifire 440
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