I'm posting a message & attachment for Kenny:
Brian, the price that I quoted was for that actual bumper extrusion, not
a extrusion that could be formed into the bumper ( I hope I'm explaining
this right ). The only thing we would have to do is make the bends and
drill the holes to bolt up to the pan. Attached is the measurements for
the extrusions that I have and a picture of it.
Kenny
NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
-
Matt
- Posts: 4747
- Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:00 am
- Real Name: Matt
- Location: Coopersburg, PA
- Contact:
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
- Attachments
-
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
the groove in the back is for the self tapping screws to screw into to secure the hood brackets through the pan to the bumper those screws are still available from deere , so one less process to have to complete wade
certificate recipiant of the 12 vintage challenge !! on a 78 liquifre 440,
certificate recipiant of the 13 vintage challenge !! on a 340/s
certificate recipient of the 14 vintage challenge !! on a 78 liquifire 440
joe forgot the certificates for the 2015 vintage challenge
crossed the start/finish line twice at the 2013 and 2014 I500 on a 78 liquifire 440
certificate recipiant of the 13 vintage challenge !! on a 340/s
certificate recipient of the 14 vintage challenge !! on a 78 liquifire 440
joe forgot the certificates for the 2015 vintage challenge
crossed the start/finish line twice at the 2013 and 2014 I500 on a 78 liquifire 440
-
400brian
- Posts: 5627
- Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:00 am
- Real Name: James T. Kirk
- Location: South Central Wisconsin
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
I had no idea the bumper was this complicated. It would appear to not be an "off the shelf" extrusion, and that generally means more money. 
'09 Vintage Challenge Survivor, and I wasn't late for supper!
'10, '11, '12, '13,'14,'15,'16,'17, '18, 19, 20, 21, 22 Vintage Challenge Survivor !
72 400 restored, Father bought new in '71
73 X8 restored
'74 340 green machine
'74 X8 9 time VC finisher
'78 Spitfire in progress
2 '75 340S 1 running, one on deck
'78 LF 440 future CC clone
'73 Skiroule RTX 440, 500 mi.
-
I500
- Posts: 1264
- Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:00 am
- Real Name: Chuck Moser
- Location: Wyoming Minnesota
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
Why cant you keep it more simple. Groove on the backside that holds the self tapping screws are worthless. Front side only helps with alignment of the decal stripe. Different material maybe? If this bumper has some slight changes not sure anybody would notice or care...........Just throwing it out there.
-
400brian
- Posts: 5627
- Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:00 am
- Real Name: James T. Kirk
- Location: South Central Wisconsin
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
Another option might be to take more common bar stock, and machine it to the general profile.
Now as for bending it...that's another issue.
Now as for bending it...that's another issue.
'09 Vintage Challenge Survivor, and I wasn't late for supper!
'10, '11, '12, '13,'14,'15,'16,'17, '18, 19, 20, 21, 22 Vintage Challenge Survivor !
72 400 restored, Father bought new in '71
73 X8 restored
'74 340 green machine
'74 X8 9 time VC finisher
'78 Spitfire in progress
2 '75 340S 1 running, one on deck
'78 LF 440 future CC clone
'73 Skiroule RTX 440, 500 mi.
-
ICCSF 108
- Posts: 4369
- Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:00 am
- Real Name: Kenny Heins, AKA Grumpy
- Location: Blue Springs Mo.
- Contact:
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
I agree with Chuck that the self tapping screws just wouldn't fit the bill for me personally either, I was thinking on using gussets to make the bumper function-able so a person could lift the front of the sled by it no matter which pan a person was using..
It would make more sense to find a extrusion that is close & like Brian says mill it to be close to the OEM one, IF we can find anything close is another question though?? It would or at least should be cheaper to use something we can find that would work & then only have to purchase 15, 8' sticks or so & then we won't have the overhead of having 100+ 8' sticks left over & paid for...
Kenny
It would make more sense to find a extrusion that is close & like Brian says mill it to be close to the OEM one, IF we can find anything close is another question though?? It would or at least should be cheaper to use something we can find that would work & then only have to purchase 15, 8' sticks or so & then we won't have the overhead of having 100+ 8' sticks left over & paid for...
Kenny
AKA: Kenny, Grumpy, Mr. Richard Head
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
-
JoeRainville
- Posts: 4355
- Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:00 am
- Real Name: "John Deere Joe"
- Location: Fort Worth, Texas
- Contact:
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
Hi Grumpy,
Have a custom die done to the correct shape is a much cheaper solution compared to having an existing extrustion milled I believe. I would suggest going with the correct looking and fitting stock profile if at all possible.
I agree that the self tapping screws don't hold up, but one of my sleds with 4,500 miles on still had them in place. It would be nice to have that option for a trailer queen or such.
Good luck Grumpy, and thanks for looking into this for all of us.
-Joe
Have a custom die done to the correct shape is a much cheaper solution compared to having an existing extrustion milled I believe. I would suggest going with the correct looking and fitting stock profile if at all possible.
I agree that the self tapping screws don't hold up, but one of my sleds with 4,500 miles on still had them in place. It would be nice to have that option for a trailer queen or such.
Good luck Grumpy, and thanks for looking into this for all of us.
-Joe
Honorary Tech Editor
Chuck Norris doesn't get frost bite. He bites the frost.
Chuck Norris doesn't get frost bite. He bites the frost.
-
400brian
- Posts: 5627
- Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:00 am
- Real Name: James T. Kirk
- Location: South Central Wisconsin
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
Wicks Aircraft shows 8' of 6061 T-6 extruded bar 1 x 1 1/4 at $51.60
'09 Vintage Challenge Survivor, and I wasn't late for supper!
'10, '11, '12, '13,'14,'15,'16,'17, '18, 19, 20, 21, 22 Vintage Challenge Survivor !
72 400 restored, Father bought new in '71
73 X8 restored
'74 340 green machine
'74 X8 9 time VC finisher
'78 Spitfire in progress
2 '75 340S 1 running, one on deck
'78 LF 440 future CC clone
'73 Skiroule RTX 440, 500 mi.
-
ICCSF 108
- Posts: 4369
- Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:00 am
- Real Name: Kenny Heins, AKA Grumpy
- Location: Blue Springs Mo.
- Contact:
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
Brian: see if they will send you a Picture of the end so we see if there extrusion would work, or send them a picture of what were looking for & see if they have anything close to it...
Grumpy
Grumpy
AKA: Kenny, Grumpy, Mr. Richard Head
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
-
400brian
- Posts: 5627
- Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:00 am
- Real Name: James T. Kirk
- Location: South Central Wisconsin
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
Kenny
It's a rectangular bar: 1" x 1.25" x 8' long.
The 1 1/4 ( 1.25" ) is pretty close to the 1.2 your drawing shows. 5/8 would be closer for the other dimension, ( rather than the full inch), but that is the only choice from Wicks.
But wait!
I found what I was looking for at Onlinemetals: http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cf ... &top_cat=0 .625 x 1.25 x 8'
Their phone number is at the bottom of the linked page, give them a call if interested and see if you can negotiate on the shipping.
It's a rectangular bar: 1" x 1.25" x 8' long.
The 1 1/4 ( 1.25" ) is pretty close to the 1.2 your drawing shows. 5/8 would be closer for the other dimension, ( rather than the full inch), but that is the only choice from Wicks.
But wait!
I found what I was looking for at Onlinemetals: http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cf ... &top_cat=0 .625 x 1.25 x 8'
Their phone number is at the bottom of the linked page, give them a call if interested and see if you can negotiate on the shipping.
'09 Vintage Challenge Survivor, and I wasn't late for supper!
'10, '11, '12, '13,'14,'15,'16,'17, '18, 19, 20, 21, 22 Vintage Challenge Survivor !
72 400 restored, Father bought new in '71
73 X8 restored
'74 340 green machine
'74 X8 9 time VC finisher
'78 Spitfire in progress
2 '75 340S 1 running, one on deck
'78 LF 440 future CC clone
'73 Skiroule RTX 440, 500 mi.
-
ICCSF 108
- Posts: 4369
- Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:00 am
- Real Name: Kenny Heins, AKA Grumpy
- Location: Blue Springs Mo.
- Contact:
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
OK Brian, I'm working on it,there Shipping seems rather cheap though $23.00 UPS Ground ( 3-5 day ) for 3 pieces 8' long, from WA. state to Blue Springs Mo.???
Kenny
Kenny
AKA: Kenny, Grumpy, Mr. Richard Head
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
-
400brian
- Posts: 5627
- Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:00 am
- Real Name: James T. Kirk
- Location: South Central Wisconsin
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
OK, sounds good Kenny.
'09 Vintage Challenge Survivor, and I wasn't late for supper!
'10, '11, '12, '13,'14,'15,'16,'17, '18, 19, 20, 21, 22 Vintage Challenge Survivor !
72 400 restored, Father bought new in '71
73 X8 restored
'74 340 green machine
'74 X8 9 time VC finisher
'78 Spitfire in progress
2 '75 340S 1 running, one on deck
'78 LF 440 future CC clone
'73 Skiroule RTX 440, 500 mi.
-
Vintagedon
- Posts: 17
- Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:43 am
- Location: Duluth,Mn.
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
I will take 2 bumpers -
ICCSF 108
- Posts: 4369
- Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:00 am
- Real Name: Kenny Heins, AKA Grumpy
- Location: Blue Springs Mo.
- Contact:
Re: NOS 340/S OEM Bumper
I won't tackle this until next summer I still have 2 projects working & right now that is enough.
Kenny
Kenny
AKA: Kenny, Grumpy, Mr. Richard Head
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?