1980 440 trailfire

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xcr800
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I have a 1980 440 Trailfire that I have a hard time starting. I sometimes have to pull it around 10 times or more any sugestions would be appreciated.
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Post by liquifire_freak »

10 pulls in the morning when your just starting it for the first time or 10 pulls after its already been warmed up?
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if you got your carb clean and choke adjusted right, carb adjusted, its the crank seals
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xcr800
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When I get it started and have been riding it and shut it off and it sits for an hour or two and I try to start it it takes a long time to start. Full or half choke doesn't seem to help. Sometimes we have to hold throttle wide open and pull it until it starts.
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Post by b00stinGTP »

Is it flooding or isnt it getting gas? How is the spark?
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Post by xcr800 »

I would say that its flooding because you can smell the gas
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Post by b00stinGTP »

Pull the plugs and see if they are wet or not then you will know.
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Post by JDFanPa »

Kinda a bandaid for the problem but I bet if you add a fuel shut off you wont have this trouble. Sounds like the fuel is leaking past the inlet needle. This could be a prob in the carb or even as simple as a dirty fuel tank it only take very minor particles of debree to keep the needle from seating 100% and stopping the fuel from going into the engine. My 82 trail does this not in an hr or 2 like yours but after a few days. I actually pull the line of the carb and plug it when I park it for the day. You can also try doing this next time your gonna let it sit and see if it starts ok.
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