Custom Dator in the Making

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Custom Dator in the Making

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Well I have been working on a dator clone Much Like KWC. Been planning for quite awhile (like a yr or 2) Now I got my dator restored I hate to wreck that so the clone comes in to play. Built on a 76 LF frame with a dator hood. I decided on an 88 A/C Wildcat 650 powerplant. Used the W/C pipes slightly modded to fit the chassis. The front radiator is out of a 80 LF for the true dator radiator. Most parts will still be JD though. so far I have been mostly working under the hood.
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Re: Custom Dator in the Making

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Doesn't look like there's alot of room under the hood for those pipes. I might suggest some insulation on the mag side pipe to save the hood. Looks good though.
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Pipes are a bit tight. They do have some clearance. But the pipes will be coated and the hood will have reflective heat sheilding under the hood. :brrr:
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Well after lots of work it lives. Pics are a bit blurry but who cares? :bonk:
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Looks like a nice project.
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Well got it outside and driving after having some carb issues. Overall it was a good day. still has tuning issues and my tach doesn't quite work right yet and I need the correct belt. But it seems to run pretty well its a rocket once it get wound up. :sled: And the hood still fits!
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Ok boys now I need some tech advice. :wall:

First off, the tach will only read up to about 5000 rpms. (both the AC and JD tach) both read the same. would a voltage regulator cause this? The eng sounds like its running faster than 5000.

Second, when driving it will accelerate well then wham..... it feels like you loose a cyl. The eng will stay running (you have to work at it) it will idle fine for awhile then away you go again till you get a ways and it does it over again. Its carb related but could it be a needle/seat, choke or just jetting? The Pto cyl seems to flood out.

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Re: Custom Dator in the Making

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Swap carbs and see if problem follows.
Is the pulse on the PTO side?If so could be a pump issue.
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This has twin single outlet pumps so both cyls run a fuel pump. I did swap carbs and the prob seemed to follow the carb.
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Well I got somewhere tonite. I got the needle and seat put in. and installed new carb boots. Found the new carb boots won't seal to the eng so I had to put the old ones back on. :wall: I had installed the A/C volt regulator and it must not work because i blew all my bulbs. :wall: On the Plus side the JD tach now seems to work properly. the eng runs up to about 7500 rpms and it read consistantly :dance: The new needle and seat didn't do anything for the eng flooding. I think the top end is just too rich I can run for abit and it will run great then it slowly starts losing power (like its flooding) I stop let it idle (kinda missing) and it will slowly clean itself out and run good again. make a run and it does it over. SOOOOO...... I think I will drop my jet needle and adj the main jets see if that will help. when the eng runs (properly) holy crap it wants to fly..... :sled:

If anyone has any better ideas feel free to chime in. :trackdown:
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Was the new voltage regulator rated for this engines output?
Vintage sleds often had only 75 watts or less rating.

Newer eninges can put out 150 or more watts.
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NICE!!!
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Well, Progess has been slow lately But I am getting there. I got most of the eng problems solved(at least till next yr) I managed to get 13 miles on the speedo. I upgraded the susp to an 80 LF for more travel and less weight it went in easily the hood is finally mounted and I think paint will be applied to it this week. :pray: now that it works time to tear it all apart and paint it! I hope this is the easy part. :wall:
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I guess theres no turning back now.....

tore down ready for paint (after a good cleaning) The goal... have it ready for Milbank. Can I make it Todd? :think:
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It'll be there. I will help you unload it.
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