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What's up with this thing?
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80spitfire
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What's up with this thing?
I pulled the chaincase cover off of my Dator tonight to take a look at the chain and the gears and I was pretty surprised with what I saw. Instead of having the standard tension blocks on it, it had a roller set up like a modern sled. You can tell by how it looks that it was probably homemade. I'd say they did a pretty good job myself. So the question is where did this come from? Was this something used on the later selds that someone added? Or is it something that somebody made up for racing? Either way it definitely isn't the way that parts catalog says they came stock. Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks,
Brian
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Brian
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JDXspec
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Re: What's up with this thing?
Looks like a racer mod to me. I know one of my dators were out out if the Winnepeg due to a broken (scissor) tensioner. That setup is similiar to a 80 LF setup.
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Re: What's up with this thing?
Looks homemade, in 78 we had an update for the CC to use a 80 Liquifire roller tensioner with a mounting bracket & everything needed including a template in the kit. See CC Race Bulletin # 4, 6 Jan 78.
I do have a few of these kits made up. They can be used to up-date the Cyclones, Liquifires, Dators, & Trailfires to the newer style tightener ( you will have to change the chain cases on the 76 sleds as they used the floating tightener & don't have the pin in them, so at that point it would be advantageous to update to the newer liquifire chain case that is setup for the roller tightener )
Note: You do have to use a longer chain than the same gearing as in the Fine Tune Manual for the gears listed in that book.
Kenny
I do have a few of these kits made up. They can be used to up-date the Cyclones, Liquifires, Dators, & Trailfires to the newer style tightener ( you will have to change the chain cases on the 76 sleds as they used the floating tightener & don't have the pin in them, so at that point it would be advantageous to update to the newer liquifire chain case that is setup for the roller tightener )
Note: You do have to use a longer chain than the same gearing as in the Fine Tune Manual for the gears listed in that book.
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Re: What's up with this thing?
This is Kenny's kit in my CC
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Re: What's up with this thing?
Don, did you polish the inside of the chain case?
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Liquifire: 77 (440) (2), 600: 73,74,75
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Re: What's up with this thing?
Wow that's a pretty cool looking kit. If I was making it into a rider I'd definitely do that! I think I'll keep this one on it though since it looks like it was probably made when it was raced.
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Re: What's up with this thing?
It does look to be a good workable setup & as they say " if it works, don't fix it "
One thing I've leaned about the roller tightener ( I'm sure this is the same for all roller tighteners ) This needs to be done when tightening the chain, there is a place where when rolling the shaft 360 deg you will have a loose spot & a tight spot in the chain.. What you have to do is find a happy medium between the two places, I hope I said that so it can be understood..
Kenny
One thing I've leaned about the roller tightener ( I'm sure this is the same for all roller tighteners ) This needs to be done when tightening the chain, there is a place where when rolling the shaft 360 deg you will have a loose spot & a tight spot in the chain.. What you have to do is find a happy medium between the two places, I hope I said that so it can be understood..
Kenny
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"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
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Re: What's up with this thing?
Yeah exactly. Believe it or not I completely understood what you said lol By the way I"m hopefully gonna chop up that gas tank soon and once I do I'll give you a call so I know where to send it.
-Brian
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Re: What's up with this thing?
No, and I'm not sure why the picture came out on it's side. The chaincase really is in the sled in the right position LOL.S_Kyle wrote:Don, did you polish the inside of the chain case?
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Re: What's up with this thing?
Brian, Keep in mind I'm leaving for MN about Dec 6th & won't be back until march,
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"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
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Re: What's up with this thing?
Oh really? Shoot do you think you'd be able to cut it to the right size for me before you leave?
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Re: What's up with this thing?
yup, just get it to me ASAP
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"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
"I Hunt For it, Purchase it, Haul it, Sometimes Repair it, Sometimes Break it, Then Fix it Again, Label it, Warehouse it, Talk About it, So NOW, HOW Can I Take Any Less $$ For It?"
"God I love the smell of KLOTZ in the morning, That smell, you know that Gasoline/Oil Smell, MAKES the whole place SMELL like.. LIKE VICTORY. You know someday the 2 strokers are gonna end..."
Do Anti-War Protesters have reunions? If so what do they TALK about?
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Re: What's up with this thing?
Sounds good Kenny I'll cut it up tonight!
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