72 Muffler

For Sale/Wanted topics - John Deere only!
Forum rules
Classified Posting Guidelines:
#1: JD snowmobile and related items only.
#2: Please do not post negative opinion comments about an item or PRICE. The only replies should be legitimate questions from interested parties.
Post Reply
MnStreaker
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:05 am
Location: Minnesota

72 Muffler

Post by MnStreaker »

I just purchased a 72 500 to ride and pull my kids with. A friend into Polaris vintage sleds helped me get it running, but is is extremely loud. Can anyone offer advice on if this sled is supposed to be so loud? I think I need a new muffler, but don't know much about vintage sleds. I would appreciate anyone that could help or may have a solution. Thanks from a newby.
AirborneX4Special
Posts: 1450
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:54 am
Real Name: Pat
Location: N. IL

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by AirborneX4Special »

See if the muffler is bad overall or if you may have a failed ball joint. You can cut the old joint off with a chop saw and weld on a new one, like I did on my 81 LF yesterday.
User avatar
GreenFever
Posts: 99
Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:00 am
Location: Thumb of Michigan

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by GreenFever »

Both my '72 500s are crazy loud. It could that the mufflers are a bit worn out after 38 years. Wonder if it is possible to cut the muffler apart and put new packing in? If they had any to to begin with.
'72 500 x2
'72 400 not running
'73 400 parts sled
'74 295/S x3 missing many parts
'74 300 not running
'75 600 missing engine parts
'75 800 not running
'73 JDX4 not running
'74 JDX6

'75 JDX8
AirborneX4Special
Posts: 1450
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:54 am
Real Name: Pat
Location: N. IL

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by AirborneX4Special »

You have no visible holes on the outside? I have no idea what might have been inside one of those mufflers, but typically a 2 stroke engine needs some type of calibrated exhaust to provide the correct back pressure. For example, a Trailfire muffler looks exactly the same as one for an 80 to 84 Liquifire but they have a different internal structure to help tune the engine. In short, a delicate balance is maintained between noise suppression and engine tuning to maximize performance on all fronts. To call it a muffler is a bit of a misnomer because it's really an expansion chamber designed to govern the engine back pressure and minimize noise.
User avatar
GreenFever
Posts: 99
Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:00 am
Location: Thumb of Michigan

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by GreenFever »

Only '74 295/S and the '75 JDX8/800 received any type of tuned expansion chamber style exhaust on the mid engine JDX/00 series. The rest were just a pipe with a muffler. Though they will not run very well with the muffler unhooked. Found that out when the exhaust spring broke on my 500.

MnStreaker if your not concerned with originality and want to save your kids hearing a muffler off newer JDX/00 might be quieter. My '74 JDX6 is not nearly as loud as my 500. You will not be able to find a nos one cheep but might be able to find a good used one.
'72 500 x2
'72 400 not running
'73 400 parts sled
'74 295/S x3 missing many parts
'74 300 not running
'75 600 missing engine parts
'75 800 not running
'73 JDX4 not running
'74 JDX6

'75 JDX8
MnStreaker
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:05 am
Location: Minnesota

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by MnStreaker »

Thanks for the comments. Would someone have a NOS or used muffler off of a newer JDX/00 that they would be willing to sell so I can try it on my 72 500? I am more concerned about my kids hearing that the originality.
JDT
Posts: 5561
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:00 am
Real Name: Todd
Location: Milbank South Dakota

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by JDT »

Rainville had NOS muffler assy at one time.

Check with him.
Todd Schrupp

Milbank SD
User avatar
jeffreyrempel
Posts: 292
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:18 am
Location: saskatoon,saskatchewan, Canada

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by jeffreyrempel »

I have an original used that is in great shape, and I was lucky enough to find a NOS muffler for my 1972 400. If you want the used one, I will give it to you, you will just have to pay shipping. If your interested! Here r some picks: :canadasmile:
Attachments
P1040652 (640x480).jpg
P1040652 (640x480).jpg (225.06 KiB) Viewed 1042 times
P1040653 (640x480).jpg
P1040653 (640x480).jpg (235.25 KiB) Viewed 1042 times
P1040654 (640x480).jpg
P1040654 (640x480).jpg (210.78 KiB) Viewed 1042 times
I wanted to write something witty here.... but I got nothing.
1972 400
AirborneX4Special
Posts: 1450
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:54 am
Real Name: Pat
Location: N. IL

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by AirborneX4Special »

Ebay item #230557976785 looks similar.
User avatar
GreenFever
Posts: 99
Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:00 am
Location: Thumb of Michigan

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by GreenFever »

AirborneX4Special wrote:Ebay item #230557976785 looks similar.
That is for '74 and up 400, 500, 600 and JDX4 Specials.
'72 500 x2
'72 400 not running
'73 400 parts sled
'74 295/S x3 missing many parts
'74 300 not running
'75 600 missing engine parts
'75 800 not running
'73 JDX4 not running
'74 JDX6

'75 JDX8
User avatar
jeffreyrempel
Posts: 292
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:18 am
Location: saskatoon,saskatchewan, Canada

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by jeffreyrempel »

This muffler is Only for 1972 400 and 1972 500, Trust me. Thank You! :naughty:
I wanted to write something witty here.... but I got nothing.
1972 400
User avatar
jeffreyrempel
Posts: 292
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:18 am
Location: saskatoon,saskatchewan, Canada

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by jeffreyrempel »

or maybe your talking about the ebay Item. But the pictures of my muffler is for 1972. :canadasmile:
I wanted to write something witty here.... but I got nothing.
1972 400
User avatar
GreenFever
Posts: 99
Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:00 am
Location: Thumb of Michigan

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by GreenFever »

Yeah I was talking about the Ebay Item. I knew your muffler was a '72. Looks nice. Can't believe it still has some paint on it after 38 years.
'72 500 x2
'72 400 not running
'73 400 parts sled
'74 295/S x3 missing many parts
'74 300 not running
'75 600 missing engine parts
'75 800 not running
'73 JDX4 not running
'74 JDX6

'75 JDX8
User avatar
80spitfire
Posts: 804
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:59 pm
Real Name: Brian Kottke
Location: Southern Minnesota

Re: 72 Muffler

Post by 80spitfire »

I'm surprise that your guy's 500s are so loud;that strikes me as weird because my 72 500 isn't really all that loud. Heck, my Spitfire is louder than it. I wonder why that is that mine is quiet. Oh well I guess I'll just be happy about it lol
72' 500 Restored
74' 295/S Unrestored
75' 340/S Rider
76' Liquidator Restored
77' Liquifire Rider
80' Spitfire Restored
Post Reply